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Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi.

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I agree with you.

Web programmers should use maintained libraries.
In web world, most common libraries maintained are support Python 3.

I (maintainer of PyMySQL and mysqlclient) uses Python 3 for daily job,
and use Python 2 only for test my libraries.


On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Carl Meyer <carl@oddbird.net> wrote:
> On 03/29/2015 09:30 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
>> What does this have to do with Python itself?  I'm not completely sure,
>> but maybe it's about the Python community.  What's the way forward?  I
>> have no idea.  At the very least John is frustrated by the community's
>> lack of apparent interest in fixing problems in the greater python
>> ecosystem when it comes to Python 3.
>
> I think one could easily draw far too broad a conclusion from John's
> report here. The title of the thread says "lack of support for
> fcgi/wsgi", but AFAICT the content of the report, and the thread, is
> entirely about FCGI. In my experience, WSGI under Python 3 works very
> well these days, and all of the popular WSGI servers (gunicorn,
> mod_wsgi, uwsgi, waitress, ...) run just fine under Python 3. I've
> deployed several Django applications into production on Python 3 (using
> WSGI) with no issues.
>
> FastCGI is a different story. I do some Django support on #django and on
> django-users, and I see very few people deploying with FastCGI anymore;
> almost everyone uses WSGI (and when we see someone using FastCGI, we
> encourage them to switch to WSGI). In fact, the FastCGI support in
> Django itself is deprecated and will be removed in Django 1.9. So I am
> not at all surprised to hear that the Python FastCGI libraries are
> relatively poorly maintained.
>
> And it is true and unsurprising that when a particular library is no
> longer maintained, it will probably be in better shape on Python 2 than
> on Python 3, because Python 2 is older.
>
> So when it comes to "the community's interest in fixing problems" or
> John's assertion that "nobody uses this stuff," in both cases I think
> it's far more about FastCGI vs WSGI than it's about Python 2 vs 3.
>
> Carl
>
>
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Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2015-03-29 11:57 -0700
  Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Andrew Berg <aberg010@my.hennepintech.edu> - 2015-03-29 14:06 -0500
  Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-30 06:11 +1100
    Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2015-03-29 15:37 -0700
      Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-30 09:58 +1100
        Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-29 18:03 -0700
          Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-30 12:22 +1100
            Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-29 19:16 -0700
              Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-30 13:30 +1100
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-29 19:51 -0700
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 14:06 +1100
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-03-29 20:20 -0700
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-29 21:35 -0700
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 15:47 +1100
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                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-03-29 22:03 -0700
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-30 14:22 +1100
          Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2015-03-29 19:11 -0700
            Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-30 13:28 +1100
            Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2015-03-30 13:07 -0700
              Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-03-30 19:02 -0400
              Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-31 10:30 +1100
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      Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Carl Meyer <carl@oddbird.net> - 2015-03-29 21:50 -0600
      Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. INADA Naoki <songofacandy@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 13:45 +0900
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    Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-29 23:04 +0100
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  Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 17:21 +0000

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