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Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi.

From Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au>
Subject Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi.
Date 2015-03-30 09:58 +1100
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John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> writes:
(for some reason quoting himself extensively without further comment)

> On 3/29/2015 1:19 PM, John Nagle wrote:
> > On 3/29/2015 12:11 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> >> John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> writes:
> >>> The Python 3 documentation at
> >>> https://docs.python.org/3/howto/webservers.html
> >>>
> >>> recommends "flup"
> >>
> >> I disagree. In a section where it describes FastCGI, it presents a tiny
> >> example as a way to test the packages installed. The example happens to
> >> use ‘flup’.
> >>
> >> That's quite different from a recommendation.

You don't respond to that. So I take it that you won't be claiming any
more that the documentation “recommends” use of ‘flup’?

> >> You have found yet another poorly-maintained package which is not
> >> at all the responsibility of Python 3.
> >> Why are you discussing it as though Python 3 is at fault?
> > 
> >    That's a denial problem. Uncritical fanboys are part of the
> > problem, not part of the solution.

To be critical entails rejecting an assertion presented without
supporting evidence.

You have provided none for your assertion that an unmaintained
third-party library is somehow a special failure of Python 3.

You removed relevant critical questions without responding to them. Let
me continue to ask these critical questions, in hope of getting a
pertinent response this time:

Why are you discussing it as though Python 3 is at fault? What do you
expect to change *about Python 3* that would address the perceived
problem? Whose responsibility is it to do that?

In the absence of good answers to those questions, the proper critical
response would be to dismiss your unsupported claims.

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Ben Finney

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Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2015-03-29 11:57 -0700
  Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Andrew Berg <aberg010@my.hennepintech.edu> - 2015-03-29 14:06 -0500
  Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-30 06:11 +1100
    Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2015-03-29 15:37 -0700
      Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-30 09:58 +1100
        Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-29 18:03 -0700
          Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-30 12:22 +1100
            Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-29 19:16 -0700
              Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-30 13:30 +1100
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-29 19:51 -0700
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 14:06 +1100
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-03-29 20:20 -0700
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-29 21:35 -0700
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 15:47 +1100
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 18:15 +0000
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-03-29 22:03 -0700
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-30 14:22 +1100
          Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2015-03-29 19:11 -0700
            Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-30 13:28 +1100
            Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2015-03-30 13:07 -0700
              Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-03-30 19:02 -0400
              Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-31 10:30 +1100
          Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-30 11:29 +0100
      Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-03-29 21:30 -0600
      Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Carl Meyer <carl@oddbird.net> - 2015-03-29 21:50 -0600
      Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. INADA Naoki <songofacandy@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 13:45 +0900
  Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-03-29 22:42 +0300
  Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-03-30 08:40 +1100
    Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-29 23:04 +0100
  Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2015-03-30 00:56 +0000
  Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 17:21 +0000

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