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Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi.

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On 03/29/2015 09:30 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
> What does this have to do with Python itself?  I'm not completely sure,
> but maybe it's about the Python community.  What's the way forward?  I
> have no idea.  At the very least John is frustrated by the community's
> lack of apparent interest in fixing problems in the greater python
> ecosystem when it comes to Python 3.

I think one could easily draw far too broad a conclusion from John's
report here. The title of the thread says "lack of support for
fcgi/wsgi", but AFAICT the content of the report, and the thread, is
entirely about FCGI. In my experience, WSGI under Python 3 works very
well these days, and all of the popular WSGI servers (gunicorn,
mod_wsgi, uwsgi, waitress, ...) run just fine under Python 3. I've
deployed several Django applications into production on Python 3 (using
WSGI) with no issues.

FastCGI is a different story. I do some Django support on #django and on
django-users, and I see very few people deploying with FastCGI anymore;
almost everyone uses WSGI (and when we see someone using FastCGI, we
encourage them to switch to WSGI). In fact, the FastCGI support in
Django itself is deprecated and will be removed in Django 1.9. So I am
not at all surprised to hear that the Python FastCGI libraries are
relatively poorly maintained.

And it is true and unsurprising that when a particular library is no
longer maintained, it will probably be in better shape on Python 2 than
on Python 3, because Python 2 is older.

So when it comes to "the community's interest in fixing problems" or
John's assertion that "nobody uses this stuff," in both cases I think
it's far more about FastCGI vs WSGI than it's about Python 2 vs 3.

Carl

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Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2015-03-29 11:57 -0700
  Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Andrew Berg <aberg010@my.hennepintech.edu> - 2015-03-29 14:06 -0500
  Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-30 06:11 +1100
    Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2015-03-29 15:37 -0700
      Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-30 09:58 +1100
        Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-29 18:03 -0700
          Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-30 12:22 +1100
            Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-29 19:16 -0700
              Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-30 13:30 +1100
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-29 19:51 -0700
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 14:06 +1100
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-03-29 20:20 -0700
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-29 21:35 -0700
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 15:47 +1100
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 18:15 +0000
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-03-29 22:03 -0700
                Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-30 14:22 +1100
          Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2015-03-29 19:11 -0700
            Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-30 13:28 +1100
            Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2015-03-30 13:07 -0700
              Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-03-30 19:02 -0400
              Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-03-31 10:30 +1100
          Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-30 11:29 +0100
      Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-03-29 21:30 -0600
      Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Carl Meyer <carl@oddbird.net> - 2015-03-29 21:50 -0600
      Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. INADA Naoki <songofacandy@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 13:45 +0900
  Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-03-29 22:42 +0300
  Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-03-30 08:40 +1100
    Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-29 23:04 +0100
  Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2015-03-30 00:56 +0000
  Re: Python 3 lack of support for fcgi/wsgi. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 17:21 +0000

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