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Re: Camelot a good tool for me OT beauty of Tk

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In a message of Fri, 22 May 2015 21:52:27 +0200, Christian Gollwitzer writes:
>Am 22.05.15 um 15:03 schrieb Laura Creighton:
>> I don't know anything about Camelot.  Tkinter produces widgets that are
>> in no way as pretty graphically as is expected nowadays -- or indeed for
>> at least 15 years.  If this matters to you -- or if you are building for
>> customers if it matters to them, then Tkinter is not a good choice.
>
>Tkinter doesn't need to be ugly. At least if you are on Windows or OSX, 
>you can make near-native looking programs, if you stick to the simple 
>rule to use ttk everywhere and never try to override background colors 
>etc. Another important rule is that icons play an important role. A 
>decent icon set makes a big difference.

I didn't know that.  Thank you.

>Would you spot that it is not a "native" Windows app? It's raw Tcl/Tk 
>rather than Tkinter, but there is no specific reason why it couldn't be 
>done in Python/Tkinter. On Linux, yes, the default themes are quite 
>ugly. There are some workarounds, like loading the bitmap plastik theme, 
>but this is substantially more (configuration) work.

And, of course, I live in the linux world.  I didn't know about
the bitmap plastik theme, either, thank you again.

>
>	Christian

Laura

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Camelot a good tool for me Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-05-22 09:59 +0200
  Re: Camelot a good tool for me Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2015-05-22 12:38 +0000
    Re: Camelot a good tool for me Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-05-22 23:02 +1000
    Re: Camelot a good tool for me Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-05-22 15:11 +0200
      Re: Camelot a good tool for me Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2015-05-22 14:29 +0100
      Re: Camelot a good tool for me Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-05-22 15:57 +0200
      Re: Camelot a good tool for me Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2015-05-22 19:24 +0200
      Re: Camelot a good tool for me Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-23 03:37 +1000
      Re: Camelot a good tool for me Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-05-22 19:56 +0200
      Re: Camelot a good tool for me Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2015-05-22 21:12 +0200
      Re: Camelot a good tool for me Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-23 18:59 +1000
      Re: Camelot a good tool for me Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2015-05-24 15:15 +0200
  Re: Camelot a good tool for me Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-05-22 15:03 +0200
    Re: Camelot a good tool for me OT beauty of Tk Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2015-05-22 21:52 +0200
      Re: Camelot a good tool for me OT beauty of Tk Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-05-22 22:13 +0200
  Re: Camelot a good tool for me Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-05-22 15:24 +0100
  Re: Camelot a good tool for me felix <felix@epepm.cupet.cu> - 2015-05-22 10:50 -0400
  Re: Camelot a good tool for me Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2015-05-24 07:05 -0500

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