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Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough?

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On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> writes:
>>On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>>>AFAIK standard Python has no GUI library at all, so Java SE
>>>and C# already are better than Python insofar as they
>>>include a standard GUI toolkit at all! In Python one first
>>>has to choose between more than a dozen of »GUI frameworks«,
>>>and then the result of the comparison between Python and Java SE
>>>would depend on that choice.
>>Define "standard Python".
>
>   »Standard Python 2.7.6 (or 3.4.1)« contains all those and
>   only those features that are available under every
>   implementation of Python 2.7.6 (or 3.4.1, respectively).
>
>   It is the set of features an implementation must compass to
>   call itself »an implementation of Python 2.7.6 (or 3.4.1,
>   respectively)«.

A circular and therefore useless definition.  Given any implementation
X and a feature Y not supported by X, one can equally well say that
either 1) X is not an implementation of Python because Y is part of
"standard Python"; or 2) Y is not part of "standard Python" because
implementation X doesn't support it.

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Is MVC Design Pattern good enough? "Ernest Bonat, Ph.D." <ernest.bonat@gmail.com> - 2014-06-01 10:37 -0700
  [OT] Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough? Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2014-06-01 18:39 +0000
  Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough? Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2014-06-02 17:59 +0200
    Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-02 19:40 +0300
      Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough? Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2014-06-09 22:56 +0200
        Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-10 13:32 +1000
          Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-10 14:03 +1000
          Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-06-10 08:45 -0600
        Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-10 19:16 +0100
          Re: Is MVC Design Pattern good enough? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-06-11 17:26 -0400

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