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Re: Tabs (was Re: OT: This Swift thing)

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From Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
Subject Re: Tabs (was Re: OT: This Swift thing)
Date Thu, 05 Jun 2014 18:23:46 -0400
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On 6/5/2014 3:05 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 6/5/2014 4:39 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

>> Treating \t as a single space would be pathetic but standard. Treating it
>> as (up to) 8 spaces would be more useful, and standard. Rendering it as a
>> picture of a banana dancing on the ceiling would be silly and non-
>> standard. Not rendering it at all is even more stupid and less justified.
>
> <\t> would be better than nothing. Let us see what Thunderbird does
> *now*. Maybe complaints prompted a change. Or maybe some clients eat
> tabs upon sending.
>
>      4 spaces

This is now 5 spaces beyond the added '> ' quote marker.
>          8 spaces

9 spaces beyond ...

>      tab, which displays as 8 spaces on input

Not literally 8 spaces, but one jump of 8 spaces. Anyway, it is now 5 
actual spaces beyond '> '. Something changed somewhere.

>          2 tabs

9 actual spaces.

> Regardless of what shows, there is still no configuration option.

And what shows is not what I expected, but better than the previous 
non-rendering.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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Re: OT: This Swift thing Sturla Molden <sturla.molden@gmail.com> - 2014-06-03 20:43 +0000
  Re: OT: This Swift thing Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-04 00:19 +0300
    Re: OT: This Swift thing Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-06-04 04:30 +0000
      Re: OT: This Swift thing Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-04 08:23 +0300
  Re: OT: This Swift thing Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-06-03 16:49 -0500
    Re: OT: This Swift thing Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 08:01 +1000
    Re: OT: This Swift thing "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org> - 2014-06-03 19:22 -0400
    Re: OT: This Swift thing Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 09:29 +1000
    Re: OT: This Swift thing "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org> - 2014-06-03 19:36 -0400
    Re: OT: This Swift thing Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-06-04 04:54 +0000
      Re: OT: This Swift thing Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 09:43 -0500
    Re: OT: This Swift thing Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 09:24 -0500
      Re: OT: This Swift thing Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 09:53 -0500
        Re: OT: This Swift thing Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-06-04 18:18 -0400
          Re: OT: This Swift thing Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 18:23 -0500
            Re: OT: This Swift thing Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-06-04 22:43 -0400
              Re: OT: This Swift thing Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-06-05 08:39 +0000
                Re: OT: This Swift thing Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 18:52 +1000
                Re: OT: This Swift thing Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-06-05 08:27 -0400
                Re: OT: This Swift thing Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 05:56 -0700
                Re: OT: This Swift thing Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-06-05 15:12 +0000
                Re: OT: This Swift thing Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 08:39 -0700
                Re: OT: This Swift thing Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 08:44 -0700
                Tabs (was Re: OT: This Swift thing) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-06-05 15:05 -0400
                Re: Tabs (was Re: OT: This Swift thing) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-06-05 18:23 -0400
                Re: Tabs (was Re: OT: This Swift thing) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-06-05 20:52 -0400
        Re: OT: This Swift thing CHIN Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2014-06-15 03:08 -0700
    Re: OT: This Swift thing Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 09:00 -0600
    Re: OT: This Swift thing Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 01:26 +1000
  Re: OT: This Swift thing Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2014-06-03 19:39 -0400
    Re: OT: This Swift thing Sturla Molden <sturla.molden@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 01:53 +0200
  Re: OT: This Swift thing Andrea D'Amore <anddamNOALPASTICCIODICARNE+gruppi@brapi.net> - 2014-06-04 09:47 +0200

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