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Re: OT: This Swift thing

Date 2014-06-04 09:00 -0600
From Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com>
Subject Re: OT: This Swift thing
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On 06/03/2014 03:49 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
> I have been engaged in a minor flame debate (locally) over block 
> delimiters (or lack thereof) which I'm loosing. Locally, people hate 
> python's indentation block delimiting, and wish python would adopt curly 
> braces. 

Yeah people do have strong opinions.  But regardless of those opinions,
a programmer who continually tries to fight the programming language (no
matter what language that is) is going to end up with low productivity
and probably bad code.  I may despise Java, but if my employer required
me to use it on a project, I need stop fighting the language and learn
to work with it and take advantage of it.  Also programmers who insist
on bringing certain paradigms and baggage with them from other languages
are going to really suffer I think.  For example, trying to program in a
Java style in Python is going to cause problems.  Back in uni I saw that
a lot with people trying to code in C++ using Javaisms.  (Hmm, I see a
pattern here... we can blame it all on Java.)

In any event, I confess I don't understand people who despise Python's
block style.  Do programmers not psuedo-code on paper or white boards
anymore?  If so, then we've definitely lost something.  That Python is
executable pseudo-code really appealed to me early on.

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Re: OT: This Swift thing Sturla Molden <sturla.molden@gmail.com> - 2014-06-03 20:43 +0000
  Re: OT: This Swift thing Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-04 00:19 +0300
    Re: OT: This Swift thing Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-06-04 04:30 +0000
      Re: OT: This Swift thing Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-04 08:23 +0300
  Re: OT: This Swift thing Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-06-03 16:49 -0500
    Re: OT: This Swift thing Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 08:01 +1000
    Re: OT: This Swift thing "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org> - 2014-06-03 19:22 -0400
    Re: OT: This Swift thing Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 09:29 +1000
    Re: OT: This Swift thing "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org> - 2014-06-03 19:36 -0400
    Re: OT: This Swift thing Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-06-04 04:54 +0000
      Re: OT: This Swift thing Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 09:43 -0500
    Re: OT: This Swift thing Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 09:24 -0500
      Re: OT: This Swift thing Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 09:53 -0500
        Re: OT: This Swift thing Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-06-04 18:18 -0400
          Re: OT: This Swift thing Mark H Harris <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 18:23 -0500
            Re: OT: This Swift thing Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-06-04 22:43 -0400
              Re: OT: This Swift thing Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-06-05 08:39 +0000
                Re: OT: This Swift thing Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 18:52 +1000
                Re: OT: This Swift thing Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-06-05 08:27 -0400
                Re: OT: This Swift thing Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 05:56 -0700
                Re: OT: This Swift thing Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-06-05 15:12 +0000
                Re: OT: This Swift thing Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 08:39 -0700
                Re: OT: This Swift thing Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 08:44 -0700
                Tabs (was Re: OT: This Swift thing) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-06-05 15:05 -0400
                Re: Tabs (was Re: OT: This Swift thing) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-06-05 18:23 -0400
                Re: Tabs (was Re: OT: This Swift thing) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-06-05 20:52 -0400
        Re: OT: This Swift thing CHIN Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2014-06-15 03:08 -0700
    Re: OT: This Swift thing Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 09:00 -0600
    Re: OT: This Swift thing Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-05 01:26 +1000
  Re: OT: This Swift thing Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2014-06-03 19:39 -0400
    Re: OT: This Swift thing Sturla Molden <sturla.molden@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 01:53 +0200
  Re: OT: This Swift thing Andrea D'Amore <anddamNOALPASTICCIODICARNE+gruppi@brapi.net> - 2014-06-04 09:47 +0200

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