Re: Future standard GUI library

From	Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Subject	Re: Future standard GUI library
Date	2013-06-14 17:18 +0200
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> I share your passion for empowering a human operator to complete and
> submit a form as quickly as possible. I therefore agree that one
> should be able to complete a form using the keyboard only.

This is not just about "forms", it's about using the entire application
without having to use the mouse, ever.
 
> Do you have strong views on which is the preferred approach.

Use a decent database RAD desktop (non-web) GUI application framework
which uses client-side application logics. "Validation" of input will
then be essentially instantaneous. Unless you run the client on that
pathological non-operating system MS (Not Responding), obviously. I've
posted a corresponding list of frameworks available for Python multiple
times already on this group:

using PyQt (& Sqlalchemy): 
Qtalchemy: www.qtalchemy.org 
Camelot: www.python-camelot.com 
Pypapi: www.pypapi.org 

using PyGTK: 
Sqlkit: sqlkit.argolinux.org (also uses Sqlalchemy) 
Kiwi: www.async.com.br/projects/kiwi 

using wxPython: 
Gui2Py: code.google.com/p/gui2py/
Dabo: www.dabodev.com 
Defis: sourceforge.net/projects/defis (Russian only) 
GNUe: www.gnuenterprise.org 

Server-roundtrips required for simple user interaction are an absolute
non-starter for productivity applications. No matter whether in a LAN
or WAN. If you want a responsive application you have to de-centralise
as much as possible. Perfect solution would be if Bettina Kemme's
Postgres-R was available for production use, then even the persistence
could run locally on the client with asynchronous replication of
all clients ("peer to peer").

Sincerely,

Wolfgang

Thread

Future standard GUI library Beinan Li <li.beinan@gmail.com> - 2013-05-18 10:03 -0400
  Re: Future standard GUI library Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2013-05-18 11:32 -0400
  Re: Future standard GUI library Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-05-18 21:25 +0000
  Re: Future standard GUI library llanitedave <llanitedave@veawb.coop> - 2013-05-18 20:01 -0700
    Re: Future standard GUI library Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2013-05-19 08:57 -0400
  Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-22 15:42 +0200
    Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-23 00:24 +1000
      Re: Future standard GUI library llanitedave <llanitedave@veawb.coop> - 2013-05-22 19:31 -0700
        Re: Future standard GUI library Fábio Santos <fabiosantosart@gmail.com> - 2013-05-23 07:43 +0100
        Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-23 16:48 +1000
        RE: Future standard GUI library Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-05-23 09:58 +0300
        Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-23 17:03 +1000
        RE: Future standard GUI library Fábio Santos <fabiosantosart@gmail.com> - 2013-05-23 08:08 +0100
      Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-23 17:41 +0200
        Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 01:51 +1000
          Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-26 19:43 +0200
            Re: Future standard GUI library Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-26 14:16 -0400
              Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-27 17:31 +0200
                Re: Future standard GUI library Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-05-27 11:13 -0600
                Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 08:21 +1000
                Re: Future standard GUI library Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-27 19:10 -0400
                Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 17:11 +1000
                Re: Future standard GUI library 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 02:40 -0700
                Re: Future standard GUI library Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 01:01 +0000
            RE: Future standard GUI library Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-05-26 21:32 +0300
              Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-28 19:26 +0200
                Re: Future standard GUI library Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 12:16 -0600
                RE: Future standard GUI library Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-05-29 00:17 +0300
                Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-29 17:20 +1000
            Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-27 04:56 +1000
            Re: Future standard GUI library Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-05-26 13:41 -0600
              Re: Future standard GUI library Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-26 15:45 -0400
                Re: Future standard GUI library Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-05-26 15:13 -0600
                Re: Future standard GUI library Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-28 15:40 +0000
              Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-27 17:22 +0200
                Re: Future standard GUI library Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-05-27 11:16 -0600
                Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-30 18:40 +0200
                Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-31 02:53 +1000
                Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 06:46 +1000
                Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-06-12 22:28 +0200
                Re: Future standard GUI library "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2013-06-13 11:32 +0200
                Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-06-14 17:18 +0200
                Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-15 03:00 +1000
                Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-06-15 14:25 +0200
                Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-15 23:26 +1000
                Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-14 00:04 +1000
                Re: Future standard GUI library "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2013-06-14 07:39 +0200
                Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-14 19:10 +1000
                Re: Future standard GUI library "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2013-06-14 11:36 +0200
                Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-06-01 20:18 +0200
                Re: Future standard GUI library Terry Jan Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-06-01 17:52 -0400
            Re: Future standard GUI library Ian Foote <ian@feete.org> - 2013-05-26 22:02 +0100
            Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-27 08:09 +1000
        Re: Future standard GUI library Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-23 20:37 +0000
          Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-28 19:28 +0200
            Re: Future standard GUI library Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-28 18:25 +0000
              Re: Future standard GUI library 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 16:19 -0700

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