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"Wolfgang Keller" <feliphil@gmx.net> wrote in message news:20130612222819.2a044e86ab4b6defe1939a04@gmx.net... > > But could it be that you have never seen an actually proficient user of > a typical "enterprise" application (ERP, MRP, whatever) "zipping" > through the GUI of his/her bread-and-butter application so fast that > you can not even read the titles of windows or dialog boxes. > > Obviously, this won't work if the client runs on this pathological > non-operating system MS (Not Responding), much less with "web > applications". > [...] > >> >> On a LAN, with a proper back-end, I can get instant response from a >> web app. > > I have been involved as "domain specialist" (and my input has always > been consistently conveniently ignored) with projects for web > applications and the results never turned out to be even remotely usable > for actually productive work. > Hi Wolfgang I share your passion for empowering a human operator to complete and submit a form as quickly as possible. I therefore agree that one should be able to complete a form using the keyboard only. There is an aspect I am unsure of, and would appreciate any feedback based on your experience. I am talking about what I call 'field-by-field validation'. Each field could have one or more checks to ensure that the input is valid. Some can be done on the client (e.g. value must be numeric), others require a round-trip to the server (e.g. account number must exist on file). Some applications defer the server-side checks until the entire form is submitted, others perform the checks in-line. My preference is for the latter. I agree with Chris that on a LAN, it makes little or no difference whether the client side is running a web browser or a traditional gui interface. On a WAN, there could be a latency problem. Ideally an application should be capable of servicing a local client or a remote client, so it is not easy to find the right balance. Do you have strong views on which is the preferred approach. Thanks for any input. Frank Millman
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Re: Future standard GUI library llanitedave <llanitedave@veawb.coop> - 2013-05-18 20:01 -0700
Re: Future standard GUI library Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2013-05-19 08:57 -0400
Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-22 15:42 +0200
Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-23 00:24 +1000
Re: Future standard GUI library llanitedave <llanitedave@veawb.coop> - 2013-05-22 19:31 -0700
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RE: Future standard GUI library Fábio Santos <fabiosantosart@gmail.com> - 2013-05-23 08:08 +0100
Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-23 17:41 +0200
Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-24 01:51 +1000
Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-26 19:43 +0200
Re: Future standard GUI library Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-26 14:16 -0400
Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-27 17:31 +0200
Re: Future standard GUI library Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-05-27 11:13 -0600
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Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 17:11 +1000
Re: Future standard GUI library 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 02:40 -0700
Re: Future standard GUI library Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 01:01 +0000
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Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-28 19:26 +0200
Re: Future standard GUI library Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 12:16 -0600
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Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-29 17:20 +1000
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Re: Future standard GUI library Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-05-26 15:45 -0400
Re: Future standard GUI library Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-05-26 15:13 -0600
Re: Future standard GUI library Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-28 15:40 +0000
Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-27 17:22 +0200
Re: Future standard GUI library Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-05-27 11:16 -0600
Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-30 18:40 +0200
Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-31 02:53 +1000
Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 06:46 +1000
Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-06-12 22:28 +0200
Re: Future standard GUI library "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2013-06-13 11:32 +0200
Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-06-14 17:18 +0200
Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-15 03:00 +1000
Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-06-15 14:25 +0200
Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-15 23:26 +1000
Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-14 00:04 +1000
Re: Future standard GUI library "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2013-06-14 07:39 +0200
Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-14 19:10 +1000
Re: Future standard GUI library "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2013-06-14 11:36 +0200
Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-06-01 20:18 +0200
Re: Future standard GUI library Terry Jan Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-06-01 17:52 -0400
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Re: Future standard GUI library Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-27 08:09 +1000
Re: Future standard GUI library Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-23 20:37 +0000
Re: Future standard GUI library Wolfgang Keller <feliphil@gmx.net> - 2013-05-28 19:28 +0200
Re: Future standard GUI library Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-28 18:25 +0000
Re: Future standard GUI library 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com> - 2013-05-28 16:19 -0700
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