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  Re: OT names/nyms/etc. Paul Derbyshire in History Class [was] Why "lock" - BURP Steve.Erwin <troll.Hunter@Usenet.4.usenetizens.org.invalid> - 2011-07-10 17:24 -0700
    Murphy the afn troll is now infesting comp.* thoolen <tholen01@gmail.com> - 2011-07-10 18:28 -0700
    Re: OT names/nyms/etc. Paul Derbyshire in History Class [was] Why "lock" - BURP blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2011-07-11 22:35 +0000
      Re: OT names/nyms/etc. Paul Derbyshire in History Class [was] Why "lock" - BURP thoolen <tholen01@gmail.com> - 2011-07-11 21:21 -0700
      Re: OT names/nyms/etc. Paul Derbyshire in History Class [was] Why "lock" - BURP thoolen <tholen01@gmail.com> - 2011-07-11 22:09 -0700
      Re: OT names/nyms/etc. Paul Derbyshire in History Class [was] Why "lock" - BURP blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> - 2011-07-12 22:41 +0000
        Re: OT names/nyms/etc. Paul Derbyshire in History Class [was] Why "lock" - BURP "myNameIsBrown" <brown@green.net.invalid> - 2011-07-12 23:41 +0100
          Re: OT names/nyms/etc. Paul Derbyshire in History Class [was] Why "lock" - BURP thoolen <tholen01@gmail.com> - 2011-07-12 23:13 -0700

#6064 — Re: OT names/nyms/etc. Paul Derbyshire in History Class [was] Why "lock" - BURP

blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> wrote:
>Steve Erwin  <trollHunter@Usenet.4.usenetizens.org.invalid> wrote:
[cut]
>> My point - Ms Massingill -  is, it is interesting you follow this 
>> "rule of etiquette" yet ignore basic rules of network protocol 
>> in tX'n an unkempt (shoddy - bogan) 
>
>Could you try that again in something more closely resembling
>standard English ....  Nah, I probably get enough of the intended
>meaning.
>
You use trn. 
Are you saying you gained an exposure to nix environments 
yet avoided having your 'dialect' of english compromised?
Are you a "Redhat Distro" kinda girl?
You are too 'old' for Ubuntu. That's "old=stable version"
kind of "'old'" :->

Acknowledging you genuinely do not "get it", I put to you it is 
the case you own more of the handicap than I. No?
Either way, *that* topic is dead. 
I have fxd REF - read the advice.
Anything more and you are simply seeking to waste even 
more of freely given time.
Hardly "neighbourly" is that :-]

>> piece of bagatelle as 
>> your "From". Small chops (as it is) it has certainly signaled to 
>> Paul Derbyshire (lewbloch+KitKat) 
>
>Are you seriously suggesting that both of these posters are Mr.
>Derbyshire in disguise?  
>
I am not suggesting. I am giving you the shortcut to Truth.
Are you really that poor a listener _all_ the time?

>That would surprise me very much in the
>case of the person who posts as Lew Bloch.  I've been following
>this group for several years, and -- I'm skeptical.  <shrug>
>
Did I say "Lew Bloch"?
Pay attention.
You may have been around for years, yet, like many others, 
have driven those roads blind, failing to pay attention.
Derbyshire excels in bushwhacking the blind.


Lew Bloch
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?as_q=&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&scoring=&lr=&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=2011&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=1&as_maxy=2011&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=Lew+Bloch&safe=off

lewbloch
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?as_q=&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&scoring=&lr=&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=2011&as_maxd=1&as_maxm=1&as_maxy=2011&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=lewbloch&safe=off

--->note the email addresses used.

Or you could simply ask "Lew Bloch"?
Google says that Lew is a GG poster. 
My policy is the same as thousands of other 
Usenetizens of note. I filter GG posts to -999 [kill], if 
the server I use does list them. Many servers do 
not accept GG posts, for good reason.

That said.

Paul Derbyshire did not begin in java related groups 
'yesterday'.
Paul has been here (and elsewhere) for years.. you 
would know this IF you had been paying attention.
In 2008 I well recall at least three professionals hauling 
Paul though tutorials on his 'corrupt' Java script.
Eventually Paul was 'booted' for trolling.
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3C49223bfe%240%2490264%2414726298%40news.sunsite.dk%3E

I suggest you go search posts by "Arne_Vajh".
He is one of the Good Guys.

>> you are 
>> "ripe for the fucking with of".
>
>I guess it's possible, but really, didn't *I* start this particular
>exchange by involving myself in the "names ending in 'a' are
>feminine" subthread?  foolishly, no doubt, but "yeah well".
>
When you are going to refer to some 'obscure', or not related 
to a current topic (in a subthread) comment, you _must_ supply 
a link to your reference.
Thankyou for forcing me to download a Guggler's post.. not! 

REF shows the messageID for the origin of the thread (I think)
you refer to. I am not downloading and reading the thread 
to do your work, work you can do.
I came in here;
<4e14a510$0$6450$c3e8da3$b1356c67@news.astraweb.com>
.. and only as you were responding to a known fuckwit.
You rejected the advice I gave at that time, so what is going 
to change, now?

>Also, if your theory about real identities is correct, there may
>be a history -- but that's all I'm going to say about that.  
>
Neither a "theory" nor a hypothetical, Miss.
Tis a plain raw Truth.

History?
fyi....
Every post (made with XNA=No) is archived in text newsgroups 
correctly listed in a nwsrc file. Were _some_ to know that small 
fact of Usenet Life they would not post an iota of the shit they do.
Paul is an exception to this. 
Paul posts regardless. 
Paul well knows folks (as yourself) have not the skills to go look
at your history 'book' -- before you say anything further on a 
topic -- nor think beyond their own response to whatever is put. 

btw..this 'phenomena is directly related to the influx of "chat" 
type attitudes which permeated Usenet upon the arrival of 
@home'rs and AOL'ers, post y2K. Before that time (evolution)
contributions were much more focused on information than 
"scoring points". And a lot of point scoring was done with a twist 
of humour. Humour today's audience is largely ignorant to. The 
new audience requires to be told when to clap.. hence we now 
have AOL type emoticons happening in posts :-D

The clock cannot be turned back, so those of us who do 
know do what is to be done with those who do not know, and act 
on removing those who do not care.
Aint nothing "personal", it is a 'free service'.

>> However, as said, you have been informed. You make your 
>> choice, as you will.
>
>[ snip ]
>
Now _that_ was the "right thing to do" :-)

As commented earlier.. you do have some smarts.
Perhaps if you were to pay attention some you may 
well avoid the need to generate posts in getting yourself 
out of tight spots?

You will note Paul is projecting again?
Another close trademark of his.
Message-ID: <ivd9kd$l35$2@speranza.aioe.org>
 
Finally?
Paul could care less about how many posts he generates.
Paul just swaps a name out and he is in your face 
again, and he knows it. That is the important outcome he 
seeks.
One "side effect" is the fact that many wise people filter out
not only his posts but anyone who _ever_ responds to his shit.
What that does for innocents (as yourself) is to have your posts
wiped off the list, nobody who knows will see you, or 'list' you.
As it is usually the most savvy of members who understand 
how to filter, you are then denied _all_ the best feedback
on topical information you wish to query.
Perhaps this is exactly the case in the parent topic/s to this 
post of mine. I have done what I can to get that fxd also.

Effectively Paul is about slaying the clueless, his peers.
Take that much on-board at least  |8:-}


-- 

Steve

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#6065 — Murphy the afn troll is now infesting comp.*

On Jul 10, 8:24 pm, Steve.Erwin <troll.Hunter@Usenet.
4.usenetizens.org.invalid> wrote:
142> Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp

142> You use trn.

What does your pontification have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> Are you saying you gained an exposure to nix environments
142> yet avoided having your 'dialect' of english compromised?

What does your question have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> Are you a "Redhat Distro" kinda girl?

What does your question have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> You are too 'old' for Ubuntu. That's "old=stable version"
142> kind of "'old'" :->

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java, Erwin? There is no such thing as being "too old for" a
piece of software, Erwin, except for little kids' game and educational
software.

142> Acknowledging you genuinely do not "get it", I put to you it is
142> the case you own more of the handicap than I. No?

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java,
Erwin? There is no evidence of any kind of "handicap" on blmblm's part
and no evidence that she doesn't "get it".

But your mangled syntax is rather recognizable, Erwin. Or should I
call you murphy? You've been trolling alt.free.newsservers under than
name for years and posting the same kind of messy, partly-
unintelligible nonsense in the same characteristic style.

142> Either way, *that* topic is dead.

What does your possibly-premature declaration have to do with Java,
Erwin? Perhaps you were confused by the existence of a
java.lang.ThreadDeath class?

142> I have fxd REF - read the advice.

What do your "fxd REF" and your advice have to do with Java, Erwin? If
you meant the References: header, you actually broke it, Erwin; this
post appears to be a separate new thread and the subject is also
changed.

142> Anything more and you are simply seeking to waste even
142> more of freely given time.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java,
Erwin? You choose to waste your own time on posting this nonsense all
over the net, Erwin. Take some responsibility, Erwin, instead of
seeking to blame others (like blmblm).

142> Hardly "neighbourly" is that :-]

How ironic.

142> I am not suggesting. I am giving you the shortcut to Truth.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java, Erwin?

142> Are you really that poor a listener _all_ the time?

What does your classic erroneous presupposition of a question have to
do with Java, Erwin?

142> Did I say "Lew Bloch"?

What does your ridiculous question, one post after you said it, have
to do with Java, Erwin? Beyond the fact that Lew Bloch is a regular
contributor to the Java newsgroups, which seems tangential at best,
Erwin.

142> Pay attention.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java,
Erwin?

142> You may have been around for years, yet, like many others,
142> have driven those roads blind, failing to pay attention.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java, Erwin?

142> Derbyshire excels in bushwhacking the blind.

Who is "Derbyshire", Erwin? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

What do your URLs have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> --->note the email addresses used.

What does your directive to blmblm have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> Or you could simply ask "Lew Bloch"?

What does your question have to do with Java, Erwin? Beyond the fact
that Lew Bloch is a regular contributor to the Java newsgroups, which
seems tangential at best, Erwin.

142> Google says that Lew is a GG poster.

What does what Google says have to do with Java, Erwin? Beyond the
fact that Lew Bloch is a regular contributor to the Java newsgroups,
which seems tangential at best, Erwin.

142> My policy is the same as thousands of other
142> Usenetizens of note.

What does your policy have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> I filter GG posts to -999 [kill], if the
142> server I use does list them.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java,
Erwin? Kill is -9999, not -999, Erwin. Still suffering from usenet how-
to ignorance, Erwin?

142> Many servers do
142> not accept GG posts, for good reason.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java, Erwin?

142> That said.

What does your sentence fragment have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> Paul Derbyshire did not begin in java related groups
142> 'yesterday'.

Who is "Paul Derbyshire", Erwin? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

142> Paul has been here (and elsewhere) for years..

Who is "Paul", Erwin? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

142> you would know this IF you had been paying attention.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java,
Erwin?

142> In 2008 I well recall at least three professionals hauling
142> Paul though tutorials on his 'corrupt' Java script.

Who is "Paul", Erwin? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

142> Eventually Paul was 'booted' for trolling.

Who is "Paul", Erwin? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

What does your URL have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> I suggest you go search posts by "Arne_Vajh".

Who is "Arne_Vajh", Erwin? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias. Perhaps you meant Arne Vajhoj?

142> He is one of the Good Guys.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java, Erwin? He's a notorious flamer in the Java newsgroups,
Erwin, who seems to have misread his Hobbes and as a result all of his
usenet posts tend to be nasty, brutish, and short.
Short-tempered that is, Erwin, though most of them are also only one
or two lines.

142> When you are going to refer to some 'obscure', or not related
142> to a current topic (in a subthread) comment, you _must_ supply
142> a link to your reference.

What does your command to blmblm have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> Thankyou for forcing me to download a Guggler's post.. not!

Who is "a Guggler", Erwin? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

142> REF shows the messageID for the origin of the thread (I think)
142> you refer to.

What does your REF have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> I am not downloading and reading the thread
142> to do your work, work you can do.

What does your avowed rudeness have to do with Java, Erwin? It is poor
netiquette to refuse to read a thread and then insist on commenting on
it anyway, Erwin.

142> I came in here;

What does your sexual deviancy have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> <4e14a510$0$6450$c3e8da3$b1356...@news.astraweb.com>

What does that have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> .. and only as you were responding to a known fuckwit.

Who is "a known fuckwit", Erwin? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias. Though that means it's available for your use,
Erwin.

142> You rejected the advice I gave at that time, so what is going
142> to change, now?

What does your question have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> Neither a "theory" nor a hypothetical, Miss.
142> Tis a plain raw Truth.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java, Erwin?

142> History?

What does your classic ambiguity of a question have to do with Java,
Erwin?

142> fyi....

What does your sentence fragment have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> Every post (made with XNA=No) is archived in text newsgroups
142> correctly listed in a nwsrc file.

What does your pontification have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> Were _some_ to know that small fact of Usenet Life they would
142> not post an iota of the shit they do.

What does your ignorance and the shit that you post have to do with
Java, Erwin?

142> Paul is an exception to this.

Who is "Paul", Erwin? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

142> Paul posts regardless.

Who is "Paul", Erwin? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

142> Paul well knows folks (as yourself) have not the skills to go
look
142> at your history 'book' -- before you say anything further on a
142> topic -- nor think beyond their own response to whatever is put.

Who is "Paul", Erwin? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

142> btw..this 'phenomena is directly related to the influx of "chat"
142> type attitudes which permeated Usenet upon the arrival of
142> @home'rs and AOL'ers, post y2K.

What does your pontification have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> Before that time (evolution) contributions were much more
142> focused on information than "scoring points". And a lot of
142> point scoring was done with a twist of humour. Humour
142> today's audience is largely ignorant to. The new audience
142> requires to be told when to clap.. hence we now have AOL
142> type emoticons happening in posts :-D

What does any of that have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> The clock cannot be turned back, so those of us who do
142> know do what is to be done with those who do not know, and act
142> on removing those who do not care.

What does your vague and empty threat towards 21st-century Usenet
posters as a group have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> Aint nothing "personal", it is a 'free service'.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java, Erwin? Threatening, without the capability to carry out the
threat, to ban all people from Usenet that started using it after the
year 2000 is not a service, Erwin. If he is still active, it won't
even remove the apparent target of your obsession, Erwin, since he
started using Usenet back in the nineties.

142> Now _that_ was the "right thing to do" :-)

What does your praise of blmblm for ignoring the most nonsensical part
of your previous post have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> As commented earlier.. you do have some smarts.

What does your observation have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> Perhaps if you were to pay attention some you may
142> well avoid the need to generate posts in getting yourself
142> out of tight spots?

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java,
Erwin?

142> You will note Paul is projecting again?

Who is "Paul", Erwin? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

142> Another close trademark of his.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java,
Erwin? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias so your
pronoun "his" lacks a referent.

142> Message-ID: <ivd9kd$l35$2@speranza.aioe.org>

What does your Message-ID have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> Finally?

What does your ambiguous question have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> Paul could care less about how many posts he generates.

Who is "Paul", Erwin? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

142> Paul just swaps a name out and he is in your face
142> again, and he knows it. That is the important outcome he
142> seeks.

Who is "Paul", Erwin? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

142> One "side effect" is the fact that many wise people filter out
142> not only his posts but anyone who _ever_ responds to his shit.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java,
Erwin? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias so your
pronoun "his" lacks a referent.

142> What that does for innocents (as yourself) is to have your posts
142> wiped off the list, nobody who knows will see you, or 'list' you.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java, Erwin? So far as I know, nobody has threatened to killfile
blmblm, Erwin.

142> As it is usually the most savvy of members who understand
142> how to filter, you are then denied _all_ the best feedback
142> on topical information you wish to query.

How ironic. Doubly so, since you're both the guy who thinks -999 is
"kill" rather than -9999 AND someone who keeps posting to
comp.lang.java.programmer but never seems to say anything to do with
Java.

142> Perhaps this is exactly the case in the parent topic/s to this
142> post of mine. I have done what I can to get that fxd also.

What do your inability to spell "fixed" correctly, your attempt to
"fx" something that isn't broken, and your failure in said attempt
have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> Effectively Paul is about slaying the clueless, his peers.

Who is "Paul", Erwin? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

142> Take that much on-board at least  |8:-}

What does your classic erroneous presupposition that blmblm is posting
from a ship have to do with Java, Erwin?

142> --

Still suffering from usenet how-to ignorance, Erwin? There should be a
space after your sigdashes, Erwin.

142> Steve

What does your alias have to do with Java, Erwin?

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#6088

In article <oigk17pccjjmtb6vdlqhakvc98d29n26fm@4ax.com>,
Steve.Erwin  <troll.Hunter@Usenet.4.usenetizens.org.invalid> wrote:
> blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Steve Erwin  <trollHunter@Usenet.4.usenetizens.org.invalid> wrote:
> [cut]
> >> My point - Ms Massingill -  is, it is interesting you follow this 
> >> "rule of etiquette" yet ignore basic rules of network protocol 
> >> in tX'n an unkempt (shoddy - bogan) 
> >
> >Could you try that again in something more closely resembling
> >standard English ....  Nah, I probably get enough of the intended
> >meaning.
> >
> You use trn. 
> Are you saying you gained an exposure to nix environments 
> yet avoided having your 'dialect' of english compromised?

No.  But I don't recognize "tX'n" or "bogan".

[ snip ]

> I have fxd REF - read the advice.

No idea what you mean here either ("fxd"?  "REF?  though the
latter could be a reference to "References" header), but I doubt
it's important.

In general I suppose I don't find some of the old-style techspeak
shorthand very appealing.  Maybe that's why I don't recognize some
of yours.  <shrug>

[ snip ]

> >> Small chops (as it is) it has certainly signaled to 
> >> Paul Derbyshire (lewbloch+KitKat) 
> >
> >Are you seriously suggesting that both of these posters are Mr.
> >Derbyshire in disguise?  
> >
> I am not suggesting. I am giving you the shortcut to Truth.
> Are you really that poor a listener _all_ the time?
> 
> >That would surprise me very much in the
> >case of the person who posts as Lew Bloch.  I've been following
> >this group for several years, and -- I'm skeptical.  <shrug>
> >
> Did I say "Lew Bloch"?

Ah.  Case and spacing are significant, aren't they.  I did assume
that "Lew Bloch" and "lewbloch" were the same, but that might not
be the case.  Still, some of the posts made by "lewbloch" do show
some familiar tropes (if that's the word I want).  Example:

Message-ID: <90bbfd1b-cb7e-4fbb-9890-f1196c633e8d@a11g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>

("[sic]" and objecting to JAVA, in particular.)

[ snip ]

> >I guess it's possible, but really, didn't *I* start this particular
> >exchange by involving myself in the "names ending in 'a' are
> >feminine" subthread?  foolishly, no doubt, but "yeah well".
> >
> When you are going to refer to some 'obscure', or not related 
> to a current topic (in a subthread) comment, you _must_ supply 
> a link to your reference.

I assumed (apparently wrongly) that you had followed the whole
exchange.  I'd have included a message ID if I'd thought it 
really mattered.  (I think.)  Anyway for the record 

<97hctfFa1jU1@mid.individual.net>

is the one I meant.  

> Thankyou for forcing me to download a Guggler's post.. not! 
> 
> REF shows the messageID for the origin of the thread (I think)
> you refer to. I am not downloading and reading the thread 
> to do your work, work you can do.
> I came in here;
> <4e14a510$0$6450$c3e8da3$b1356c67@news.astraweb.com>

Which in its reference headers has a reference to the earlier post
(above).  Does your news reader not make it easy to fetch a post's
parent (in the tree of posts)?

> .. and only as you were responding to a known fuckwit.
> You rejected the advice I gave at that time, so what is going 
> to change, now?

As I understand things, the main piece of advice you have given
me is to change my setup so that it shows something other than
a now-obsolete e-mail address as my "name".  I decline to follow
that advice, yes.  

> >Also, if your theory about real identities is correct, there may
> >be a history -- but that's all I'm going to say about that.  

[ snip ]

> History?

Yes, but again it appears that I have not expressed my meaning
clearly ....

> fyi....
> Every post (made with XNA=No) is archived in text newsgroups 
> correctly listed in a nwsrc file. Were _some_ to know that small 
> fact of Usenet Life they would not post an iota of the shit they do.

I'm well aware that Google is attempting to carry on with the
complete(?) archive of Usenet posts begun by Deja News, though
sometimes the access they provide to it isn't what one might hope
for.  Is there anyone else who claims to be providing the same
service?  AIUI most news servers do not retain posts indefinitely.

Just for the record, the name "Paul Derbyshire" is not new to me --
I've been following this group for long enough to have observed (and,
alas, participated in) previous discussions in which the name arose.
That's what I meant by "history".  Apparently you thought I meant
something else.  Yeah well.

[ snip ]

-- 
B. L. Massingill
ObDisclaimer:  I don't speak for my employers; they return the favor.

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#6097

On Jul 11, 6:35 pm, blmblm@myrealbox.com <blmblm.myrealbox@gmail.com>
wrote:
1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp

1> No.  But I don't recognize "tX'n" or "bogan".

What does Erwin's garbled English have to do with Java, blmblm?

1> No idea what you mean here either ("fxd"?  "REF?  though the
1> latter could be a reference to "References" header), but I doubt
1> it's important.

Nothing that Erwin writes is important, blmblm, and much of it is
undoubtedly lies.

1> In general I suppose I don't find some of the old-style techspeak
1> shorthand very appealing.  Maybe that's why I don't recognize some
1> of yours.  <shrug>

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java,
blmblm? That isn't old-style techspeak, blmblm; it's a made-up
nonsense language that Erwin aka murphy aka phlat_Arse aka Flash aka
glyph aka numerous other handles uses when trolling newsgroups,
blmblm. With your past history in this newsgroup you should be
familiar with the concept, blmblm.

1> Ah.  Case and spacing are significant, aren't they.

In Java, blmblm, but not in normal English. Of course, what Erwin
writes is not, by any stretch of the imagination, normal English.

1> I did assume that "Lew Bloch" and "lewbloch" were the same, but
1> that might not be the case.

What does your classic pontification have to do with Java, blmblm?

1> Still, some of the posts made by "lewbloch" do show
1> some familiar tropes (if that's the word I want).

What do Bloch's tropes have to do with Java, blmblm?

1> Example:
1>
1> Message-ID: <90bbfd1b-cb7e-4fbb-9890-
f1196c633e8d@a11g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
1>
1> ("[sic]" and objecting to JAVA, in particular.)

Classic pontification.

1> [ snip ]

Wise. Snipping the whole thing and plonking "Erwin" would have been
wiser, though.

1> I assumed (apparently wrongly) that you had followed the whole
1> exchange.

I doubt Erwin reads very much of what is posted, blmblm. Trolls rarely
do, and spammers whose main reason for "participation" is just to dump
a wad of claims and move on even less so, blmblm.

1> I'd have included a message ID if I'd thought it
1> really mattered.  (I think.)

What does your message ID have to do with Java, blmblm?

1> Anyway for the record

What does your record have to do with Java, blmblm?

1> <97hctfFa1...@mid.individual.net>

What does your message ID have to do with Java, blmblm?

1> is the one I meant.

Classic pontification.

1> Which in its reference headers has a reference to the earlier post
1> (above).

Classic pontification.

1> Does your news reader not make it easy to fetch a post's
1> parent (in the tree of posts)?

What does your question of Erwin have to do with Java, blmblm?

1> As I understand things, the main piece of advice you have given
1> me is to change my setup so that it shows something other than
1> a now-obsolete e-mail address as my "name".  I decline to follow
1> that advice, yes.

The troll currently calling himself "Erwin" has been known to react
very badly to having his advice rejected, blmblm. Just so you know.

1> [ snip ]

Wise. Snipping the whole thing and plonking "Erwin" would have been
wiser, though.

1> Yes, but again it appears that I have not expressed my meaning
1> clearly ....

Or Erwin is intentionally misinterpreting you, blmblm. Trolls have
been known to do that from time to time.

1> I'm well aware that Google is attempting to carry on with the
1> complete(?) archive of Usenet posts begun by Deja News, though
1> sometimes the access they provide to it isn't what one might hope
1> for.

What does your pontification have to do with Java, blmblm?

1> Is there anyone else who claims to be providing the same
1> service?

What does your question of Erwin have to do with Java, blmblm?

1> AIUI most news servers do not retain posts indefinitely.

What does your pontification have to do with Java, blmblm?

1> Just for the record, the name "Paul Derbyshire" is not new to me --
1> I've been following this group for long enough to have observed
(and,
1> alas, participated in) previous discussions in which the name
arose.

Who is "Paul Derbyshire", blmblm? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

1> That's what I meant by "history".

What does your classic pontification have to do with Java, blmblm?

1> Apparently you thought I meant something else.

What does what Erwin thought have to do with Java, blmblm?

1> Yeah well.

What does that have to do with Java, blmblm?

1> [ snip ]

Wise. Snipping the whole thing and plonking "Erwin" would have been
wiser, though.

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#6100

On Jul 11, 9:37 pm, "n07-Ms.Massingill"  <blmblm.my-cute-
box@g.mail.com.null> wrote:
1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp

1> "transmitting".

What do your transmissions have to do with Java, anonymous cowardly
forger?

1> tX is ham-radio speak, I guess.

What does ham-radio speak have to do with Java, anonymous cowardly
forger?

1> Although it has a place in the OSI model I believe.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java, anonymous cowardly forger?

1> I could say the same on your ability to search"bogan" as
1> you have on my very capable (in competent hands)
1> newsreading software to grab parent posts.. but I will
1> not, being a Gentleman.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java,
anonymous cowardly forger? You are posting appearing to be an
alternate account of blmblm's and then sexually harassing her,
anonymous cowardly forger; hardly the actions of a "Gentleman". I
mean, really. "blmblm.my-cute-box"?!

1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogan
1>         [q]The term bogan has been employed
1>              favourably to indicate being proudly
1>              un-fashionable or 'rough around the edges.[/q]

What does the term bogan have to do with Java, anonymous cowardly
forger?

1> -------->from mIRC.

What does mIRC have to do with Java, anonymous cowardly forger? It is
my understanding that mIRC is implemented in C or C++, anonymous
cowardly forger.

1> fxd, like "fskn", have specific meanings.

What do your meanings have to do with Java, anonymous cowardly forger?

1> I can only suggest you spend time in #debian.

What does #debian have to do with Java, anonymous cowardly forger?

1> This *is* contemporary computer language.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java, anonymous cowardly forger?

1> Geeky, maybe, but who are we mere "bottom of the
1> triangle" feeders to judge those at the apex?

What does your question of blmblm have to do with Java, anonymous
cowardly forger?

What does your URL have to do with Java, anonymous cowardly forger?

1> As Jimmy said to the whiner in the tunnel they
1> were digging, out of jail.

Who is "Jimmy", anonymous cowardly forger? There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.

1>         "Aint no catwalk, sweetheart"

What does your catwalk have to do with Java, anonymous cowardly
forger?

What does your URL have to do with Java, anonymous cowardly forger?

1> Tolerance in all things is solid Usenetizen advice, no matter
1> how extensive your tour of 'duty'.

How ironic.

1> I tolerate your not so subtle demands to demonstrate I know
1> what I am doing, the least you could do is not be snide(?) in
1> your responses.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java,
anonymous cowardly forger?

1> You _are_ reading very much as the n00b.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java, anonymous cowardly forger? blmblm was using computers,
programming computers, and posting to Usenet when you were in diapers,
anonymous cowardly forger.

1> Is that a pretence too, "non-comprendo" aside?

What does your classic erroneous presupposition of a question have to
do with Java, anonymous cowardly forger?

1> Interesting.. in one who posts as an "English Rose", no?

What does your question of blmblm have to do with Java, anonymous
cowardly forger?

1> fyi..

What does that have to do with Java, anonymous cowardly forger? I note
that "fyi.." on a line by itself and with an extra period is a common
trope in murphy's troll posts in AFN, anonymous cowardly forger.
Perhaps you should make more of an effort to disguise yourself while
forging other peoples' news articles, murphy.

1> I am dealing with your comments as I would an equal in
1> the tux (linux) community, gender aside.

What does your pontification have to do with Java, murphy?

1> I cannot ignore your sex, as I am but a mortal man, with all
1> those handicaps a full (double) load testosterone brings.

What do your handicaps have to do with Java, murphy?

1> Well you may be a double-D in a thong, with a "wink an' a walk"
1> to match,

What does your sexual harassment of blmblm have to do with Java,
murphy?

1> but these laughter lines on my countenance forbid
1> taking anyone for granted, anywhere.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java,
murphy? You have no laughter lines on your countenance, murphy. Only
people with senses of humor get those, murphy, and not when their ages
are still in the single digits.

1> From a mature woman I am not short on expecting likewise
1> in return.. if you too have those same lines in the mirror.

What do blmblm's hypothetical laugh lines have to do with Java,
murphy?

1> Quick to assume when I made it so plain?

What does your question of blmblm have to do with Java, murphy?

1> There is a trait both yourself and Derbyshire
1> share.. in comprehension.

Who is "Derbyshire", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

1> Yet you pick up on the sirens of both harmonising, yes?

What does your question of blmblm have to do with Java, murphy?

1> Well done in breaking my filters (again) and
1> in making me work... not! :-D

What do your broken filters and your laziness have to do with Java,
murphy?

1> Must be that "let the downstairs maid fetch it" thing?

What does your maid have to do with Java, murphy?

1> Follow that thread and you will see your mentor(?)
1> shares yet another attribute with Derbyshire.

Who is "Derbyshire", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

1> the inability to configure his T'bird so as to recognise dlmt.

What is "dlmt", murphy? Still suffering from an inability to speak in
complete sentences of normal, grammatical English without personal
neologisms, murphy?

1> Paul is all over the place telling posters their sig line is
1> borked/fskd/busted when in fact it is *his* setup of
1> *his* software that is the problem.

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

1> I have witnessed several persons attempting to correct
1> Paul on this.

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

1> To no avail, I would add.

What does your addition have to do with Java, murphy?

1> Paul's T'Bird remains busted to this very day.

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

1> I am not going to make a call on Lew and lewbloch as
1> I have not done that work.

What does your intent to attempt to invade Bloch's privacy have to do
with Java, murphy?

1> It _is_ Google crap.

What does your crap have to do with Java, murphy?

1> Suffice to say they both use that interface for a reason,
1> and both have (now) a reputation for passive aggressive
1> posting.

How ironic.

1> I do get to see follow-up.

What does your unintelligible sentence have to do with Java, murphy?

1> On topic it is wise to watch Paul very carefully.

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

1> The guy might not be able to edit a plain text *.ini file
1> for Windows but he has well mastered "copy and paste"
1> in figuring out what a cache is for.

Who is "The guy", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

1> Unless it is cutting edge stuff most of what we see today
1> has been done plenty times over and is archived.
1>
1> a quick search, some swift editing and pretty much anyone
1> with a bit of a clue on the topic can lead even the most
1> astute of regulars around by the nose for a time.

What does your pontification have to do with Java, murphy?

1> I have no doubt Paul has a number of well buried socks
1> yet to be discovered.

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias. And why would he be treating his footwear like a dead pet,
murphy? And what does his footwear have to do with Java, murphy?

1> Nope.

What does your ambiguous denial have to do with Java, murphy?

1> I use "load and search".

What does your search have to do with Java, murphy?

1> I start reading when the crosshairs match.

What do your trolling triggering criteria have to do with Java,
murphy?

1> I note you were looking sideways in that comment
1> you make in the post.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java, murphy? There's no way you can have noted which direction
blmblm was facing when she hit "send", murphy. Usenet isn't webcam-
enabled, murphy. Still suffering from Usenet how-to ignorance, murphy?

1> Perhaps doing yourself a disservice in not dealing
1> with that 'feeling' and looking further?

What does your question of blmblm have to do with Java, murphy?

1> You were onto him (Paul).

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

1> Using Paul's aioe.org "tag" for that login.

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

1> 3YDAuD+aHzH3oDO5mYkDPw

Still suffering from line noise problems, murphy?

1> <iuvi08$tg9$1@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iv1gop$80d$1@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iuvi08$tg9$1@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iv1c7p$s59$4@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iuvki5$3d6$2@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iv1c2e$s59$2@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iuvkj1$3d6$3@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iv1c4m$s59$3@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iuvkdk$3d6$1@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iv1ckr$tum$1@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iv19on$n30$1@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iv1cre$u8b$1@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iv1bds$r22$1@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iv1biu$r22$2@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iuvoo8$fbj$1@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iv1acf$ofj$1@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iv1ari$pn3$1@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iuvk96$3bq$1@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iuvns0$c8o$1@speranza.aioe.org>
1> <iv1b1j$pn3$2@speranza.aioe.org>

What do your Message-IDs have to do with Java, murphy?

1> You would do worse than to read this post.

What does your ambiguous claim have to do with Java, murphy?

1> Lots of clues in that work.

How ironic.

1> <5t0n3dD47Derbyshire@troll.org.null>

What does your RFC-violating Message-ID have to do with Java,
murphy? .null is not a valid top-level domain, murphy. Still suffering
from Usenet how-to ignorance problems, murphy?

1> Yes, I am good with that, I myself.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java, murphy? Nothing about you is "good", murphy.

1> OMMV

What is "OMMV", murphy? And what does it have to do with Java?

1> As long as you know, and choose how you wish to appear, it
1> is all good! :-D
1>
1> Who am I to say which gown you wear.. or none, as the
1> case may be.

What does your sexual harassment of blmblm have to do with Java,
murphy?

1> And some do. Using "From" as  .@.
1> Some servers run with it.

What does your non sequitur have to do with Java, murphy?

1> Not at all. It was my response that assumed you were
1> 'into' what I was saying.

What do your bad assumptions have to do with Java, murphy?

1> Casting aside the implied "he cannot read" thrust, that is :-}

What do your ongoing reading comprehension problems have to do with
Java, murphy?

1> Today (for reasons other than those of discussion forums)
1> there are a number of servers that carry text posts for up
1> to four years, possibly longer on backend spools.

What does your pontification have to do with Java, murphy?

1> And you do know of Howard Knight, and those archives?

Who is "Howard Knight", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

1> You are pointing to this?

What does your question of blmblm have to do with Java, murphy?

What does your URL have to do with Java, murphy?

1> I meant exactly what that post tells you, well.. it tells those
1> who understand many have no idea what they post is
1> archived forever by someone somewhere. That post is
1> linked to Paul outing himself that very same day - as two
1> other personas in cljp.

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

1> I myself have extensive archives growing well over 80GB
1> today, from only a stuttering start in 1999 and only in a
1> selection of groups addressing specific posters.

How ironic, considering many of your own troll posts have X-No-
Archive: Yes headers, murphy. Suffering from double standard problems,
murphy?

1> Buried in that database are at least 8 dead Trolls of
1> significance, and the shrouds of a dozen more (maybe)
1> still posting.

What does the evidence of your past murders and future murder plots
have to do with Java, murphy? The FBI might be very interested in what
you say you have buried in your database, murphy, but the denizens of
cljp could not possibly care less.

1> If you see Sidney Lambe around, let me
1> know. He slipped into an alley some time ago.. or
1> died, literally.

Who is "Sidney Lambe", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias. And what does his murder at your hands have to do with
Java, murphy?

1> It is no boast, trust me.

What does your request to blmblm that she believe your claim that you
bump off rival Usenet trolls have to do with Java, murphy?

1> There is no "smoking gun"
1> here, it is either firing with a flicked hammer or being
1> reloaded. Period.

What does your penchant for violence have to do with Java, murphy?

1> On Deja news?

What does your ambiguous question have to do with Java, murphy?

1> You will read many posts quoting the new "Google Groups"
1> search engine as being "broken".

What does your classic pontification have to do with Java, murphy?

What does your URL have to do with Java, murphy?

1> It is not, broken, it is however inaccessible to many.

What does your unsubstantiated claim have to do with Java, murphy?

1> Aside from the obvious change Google made of hashing
1> up the "From" there are a number of other idiosyncrasies
1> which have been introduced, inadvertently, I believe.

What do your idiosyncrasies have to do with Java, murphy?

1> Get through those and the posts are all still there.

What do your posts have to do with Java, murphy?

1> And _there_ is what the post of Paul's - and
1> others he has made to <*friends.ca> - I point you to  
1> prove conclusively in demonstrating the fact that
1> were people to know (upon entering Usenet) their
1> work' is listed, they would not have made the posts.

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias.

1> It is just something that spatially challenged folk shift
1> into when they believe "it's a computer, nobody can
1> _see_ me" as they gravitate towards putting out there
1> their absolute true self in Anonymity.

How ironic.

1> As would a child with a new toy telephone.

How ironic.

1> What a joke!

What does your being a joke have to do with Java, murphy?

1> A laugh a minute on the likes of Paul Derbyshire of
1> Pembroke 0ntario [CA].

Who is "Paul Derbyshire", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

1> Are we done here,

What does your question of blmblm have to do with Java, murphy?

1> 'cos I am.

Famous Last Words.

1> Anything more we need to go to
1> email -->chunoodles @yahoo.com

What does your futile propositioning of blmblm for private chat have
to do with Java, murphy?

1> I trust your future in Usenet will not reflect your
1> past, Ms Massingill.

What does blmblm's future in Usenet have to do with Java, murphy?

1> Stay on the high road and never lose faith there is
1> someone somewhere who cares the forums remain "free".

How ironic, coming from a netkkkop who repeatedly demands that various
people leave various newsgroups.

1> Steve

What does your latest alias have to do with Java, murphy?

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#6137

Another post in this thread references a post with message ID

981c5iFlgtU3@mid.Massingill.null

and claiming to be from "n07-Ms.Massingill".  It's probably clear
to anyone who's still following this subthread that I did not write
said post.

I'm responding to my own post rather than to the -- I'm not sure
whether to call it a forgery or a demonstration of spoofing skills
or what -- because that post (forgery/spoof) wasn't delivered to
me by my news server.  I know about it only because someone else
replied and quoted parts of it.  Whether that means it hasn't
arrived yet, or it did arrive and was discarded according to
whatever rules they employ, I don't know.  I was curious enough to
check Google's archives, and couldn't find it by message ID, but
fortunately searching on *my* message ID found a thread including
the forgery/spoof.

Anyway, I think it's past time for me to stop participating in this
thread; it seems to be going in some direction I'd prefer to avoid.
I'll say for the record that in previous posts replying to those
from Steve Erwin, anything that came across as disparaging was not
meant that way (e.g., when I say "apparently I'm not expressing
myself well", that's what I mean, rather than some subtle innuendo
about the reading comprehension of someone I don't know).

It's been -- interesting.  

-- 
B. L. Massingill
ObDisclaimer:  I don't speak for my employers; they return the favor.

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#6145

blmblm@myrealbox.com wrote:
>
>Another post in this thread references a post with message ID
>
>981c5iFlgtU3@mid.Massingill.null
>
>and claiming to be from "n07-Ms.Massingill".  It's probably clear
>to anyone who's still following this subthread that I did not write
>said post.
>
I would sincerely hope so.
These are programming groups.. despite the 
presence of Derbyshire.

That's Paul Derbyshire to be precise.
THE Paul Derbyshire.
Did I say "Derbyshire".

<cuts bait>
That will bring a Google post on.
</cuts bait>

>I'm responding to my own post rather than to the -- I'm not sure
>whether to call it a forgery or a demonstration of spoofing skills
>or what -- because that post (forgery/spoof) wasn't delivered to
>me by my news server. 

A case of rampant SOH at this end, I would offer as apology 
for any absorption angst - not that I sense a lot in your 
response.
Might we agree to say "not the right day"????  :-)

As seen, I locked that header devil up.
Like News of the World - gone[g]

[..]
>It's been -- interesting.  

Indeed so. One of the more refreshing exchanges this 
desk has joined with, in some time.
Might your grass be soft beneath the feet and the wind
rise to fill your sails.

bye.
-- 

Steve

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#6151

On Jul 12, 6:41 pm, "myNameIsBrown" <br...@green.net.invalid> wrote:
1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp

1> I would sincerely hope so.

What does your hope have to do with Java, murphy?

1> These are programming groups.. despite the
1> presence of Derbyshire.

Who is "Derbyshire", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

1> That's Paul Derbyshire to be precise.

Who is "Paul Derbyshire", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

1> THE Paul Derbyshire.

Who is "THE Paul Derbyshire", murphy? There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.

1> Did I say "Derbyshire".

Who is "Derbyshire", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

1> <cuts bait>

What does your trolling have to do with Java, murphy?

1> That will bring a Google post on.

What does your prediction have to do with Java, murphy?

1> </cuts bait>

What does your trolling have to do with Java, murphy?

1> A case of rampant SOH at this end, I would offer as apology
1> for any absorption angst - not that I sense a lot in your
1> response.

What is "SOH", murphy, and what does your insincere apology have to do
with Java, murphy?

1> Might we agree to say "not the right day"????  :-)

I doubt it, murphy. You really know the way to a girl's heart, murphy.
Not.

1> As seen, I locked that header devil up.

Who is "that header devil", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

1> Like News of the World - gone[g]

What does News of the World have to do with Java, murphy?

1> [..]

What does your robot-head emoticon have to do with Java, murphy? Are
you admitting you use a bot to post, murphy?

1> Indeed so. One of the more refreshing exchanges this
1> desk has joined with, in some time.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java, murphy?

1> Might your grass be soft beneath the feet and the wind
1> rise to fill your sails.

What does your insincere statement have to do with Java, murphy?

1> bye.

Famous Last Word.

1> Steve

What does your current alias have to do with Java, murphy?

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