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Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap)

From Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap)
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Date 2012-10-05 15:51 -0700

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On 10/5/12 1:04 PM, Lew wrote:
> On Friday, October 5, 2012 12:06:18 PM UTC-7, Daniel Pitts wrote:
>> Iteration is how you reveal the order.
>
> Iteration of what?
Anything that is a view into this map.
>
> Again, my concern is that 'Set' doesn't promise predictable iteration order, in fact,
> exactly the opposite. The only iterators available for a 'Map' are through its 'Set'-
> returning methods, which result in a collection that promises not to have a predictable
> iteration order.
The intent is pretty clear to me. It is predictable if the Set (or 
Collection for the values() method) comes from a LinkedHashSet.
>
> So I ask one more time - in what way is that guaranteed iteration order revealed?
By definition of this class, both in documentation and implementation.

> I understand that the only way is through those iterators, but the Javadocs have a hole
> in them about that.
Perhaps they do, but the intent is more than clear, as is the 
implementation. Perhaps the JavaDoc could have been more explicit, but 
that isn't the point.

Any iteration over the contents of LinkedHashMap has a guaranteed order.

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Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-04 14:09 +0200
  Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-10-04 23:01 +0200
    Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-10-04 14:43 -0700
      Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-05 00:17 +0200
      Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-10-05 19:11 +0200
        Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-10-05 11:05 -0700
          Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-05 20:18 +0200
          Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-10-05 12:06 -0700
            Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-10-05 13:04 -0700
              Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-05 23:44 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-05 23:50 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-06 00:00 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2012-10-05 23:39 +0000
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-06 12:18 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-06 12:22 +0200
              Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-10-05 15:51 -0700
          Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-10-06 13:53 +0200
  Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-09 14:16 -0600
    Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 09:00 -0600
      Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-10-10 11:34 -0400
        Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 10:28 -0600
          Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 11:45 -0600
            Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-10-10 10:52 -0700
              Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 12:47 -0600
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-11 14:17 -0600
            Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-10-10 18:20 -0400
              Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 16:51 -0600
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-12 14:34 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-12 09:12 -0600
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-10-12 11:42 -0400
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-12 21:02 +0200

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