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Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap)

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On 04.10.2012 23:43, Lew wrote:
> Robert Klemme wrote:
>> Jan Burse wrote:

>>> But SortedMap map assumes a compartor, whereby the
>>> sorting in LinkedHashMap is implicit.
>>
>> There is no sorting going on - you just get insertion order.
>
> You get insertion order how?

First paragraph of JavaDoc:

Hash table and linked list implementation of the Map interface, with 
predictable iteration order. This implementation differs from HashMap in 
that it maintains a doubly-linked list running through all of its 
entries. This linked list defines the iteration ordering, which is 
normally the order in which keys were inserted into the map 
(insertion-order). Note that insertion order is not affected if a key is 
re-inserted into the map.

> The interesting thing about this class is that it has no public methods that reveal
> the order.

Why would they need to?

> So what difference does the order make?

There are some use cases described in the class JavaDoc.

> I can guess, but the docs don't confirm, that iterators off the keyset or entryset would
> respect the order, but the documentation for the 'keySet()' and 'entrySet()' methods doesn't
> promise this.

You do not have to guess - logical reasoning is enough.  The only way to 
iterate through a Map is via entrySet(), keySet() and values().  What 
other methods could make use of the order if not these?

> It's useful for subclasses, from what the documentation hints, but to the public?

It seems you could create a LRU Map with this, right.  Other uses are 
described in the class doc as mentioned above.

Kind regards

	robert



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Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-04 14:09 +0200
  Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-10-04 23:01 +0200
    Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-10-04 14:43 -0700
      Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-05 00:17 +0200
      Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-10-05 19:11 +0200
        Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-10-05 11:05 -0700
          Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-05 20:18 +0200
          Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-10-05 12:06 -0700
            Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-10-05 13:04 -0700
              Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-05 23:44 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-05 23:50 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-06 00:00 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2012-10-05 23:39 +0000
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-06 12:18 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-06 12:22 +0200
              Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-10-05 15:51 -0700
          Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-10-06 13:53 +0200
  Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-09 14:16 -0600
    Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 09:00 -0600
      Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-10-10 11:34 -0400
        Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 10:28 -0600
          Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 11:45 -0600
            Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-10-10 10:52 -0700
              Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 12:47 -0600
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-11 14:17 -0600
            Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-10-10 18:20 -0400
              Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 16:51 -0600
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-12 14:34 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-12 09:12 -0600
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-10-12 11:42 -0400
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-12 21:02 +0200

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