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Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap)

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Robert Klemme wrote:
> Jan Burse wrote:
>> I just wonder whether I have overlooked something.
>> But could it be that LinkedHashMap is lacking the
>> following API:
>
>>     Map<K,V> descendingMap();

It's also lacking 'ascendingMap()'

>> So I can only iterate from oldest to youngest, and
>> not the other direction?
> 
> I guess they omitted it because the purpose is to provide a Map which 
> always returns elements in insertion order (and not reverse insertion 
> order).
> 
>> Although under the hood it uses a double linked list,
>> and a reverse iterator would be simple.
>>
>> Also the whole matter seems to be complicated, since
>> the other collections have descendingMap() in an
>> Interface NavigableMap, which extends SortedMap.
> 
> There you see why it's not in LinkedHashMap: it's neither a NavigableMap 
> nor a SortedMap.
> 
>> But SortedMap map assumes a compartor, whereby the
>> sorting in LinkedHashMap is implicit.
> 
> There is no sorting going on - you just get insertion order.

You get insertion order how?

The interesting thing about this class is that it has no public methods that reveal 
the order.

So what difference does the order make?

I can guess, but the docs don't confirm, that iterators off the keyset or entryset would
respect the order, but the documentation for the 'keySet()' and 'entrySet()' methods doesn't 
promise this.

It's useful for subclasses, from what the documentation hints, but to the public?

-- 
Lew

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Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-04 14:09 +0200
  Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-10-04 23:01 +0200
    Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-10-04 14:43 -0700
      Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-05 00:17 +0200
      Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-10-05 19:11 +0200
        Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-10-05 11:05 -0700
          Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-05 20:18 +0200
          Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-10-05 12:06 -0700
            Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-10-05 13:04 -0700
              Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-05 23:44 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-05 23:50 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-06 00:00 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2012-10-05 23:39 +0000
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-06 12:18 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-06 12:22 +0200
              Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-10-05 15:51 -0700
          Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-10-06 13:53 +0200
  Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-09 14:16 -0600
    Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 09:00 -0600
      Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-10-10 11:34 -0400
        Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 10:28 -0600
          Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 11:45 -0600
            Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-10-10 10:52 -0700
              Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 12:47 -0600
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-11 14:17 -0600
            Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-10-10 18:20 -0400
              Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 16:51 -0600
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-12 14:34 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-12 09:12 -0600
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-10-12 11:42 -0400
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-12 21:02 +0200

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