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Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap)

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On 10/5/12 11:05 AM, Lew wrote:
> Robert Klemme wrote:
>> Lew wrote:
>>> Robert Klemme wrote:
>>>> Jan Burse wrote:
>>> You get insertion order how?
>>
>> First paragraph of JavaDoc:
>>
>> Hash table and linked list implementation of the Map interface, with
>> predictable iteration order. This implementation differs from HashMap in
>> that it maintains a doubly-linked list running through all of its
>> entries. This linked list defines the iteration ordering, which is
>> normally the order in which keys were inserted into the map
>> (insertion-order). Note that insertion order is not affected if a key is
>> re-inserted into the map.
>
> That says how you put the order, not how you get the order.

What are you talking about Lew?
The JavaDoc says specifically "with predictable iteration order.".

This indicates that the iteration order is the same as the order in 
which items are "put", baring key collisions.
>
>>> The interesting thing about this class is that it has no public methods that reveal
>>> the order.
>>
>> Why would they need to?
>
> If the ordered state is not observable, what difference does it make?
The ordered state is observable through iteration.  The OP was only 
asking for reverse iterator, which isn't part of what he can get.  I 
wouldn't call that a glitch, just a feature request.
>
>>> So what difference does the order make?
>>
>> There are some use cases described in the class JavaDoc.
>
> It doesn't explain how you reveal the order, only how you put it into another structure.

Iteration is how you reveal the order.

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Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-04 14:09 +0200
  Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-10-04 23:01 +0200
    Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-10-04 14:43 -0700
      Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-05 00:17 +0200
      Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-10-05 19:11 +0200
        Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-10-05 11:05 -0700
          Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-05 20:18 +0200
          Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-10-05 12:06 -0700
            Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-10-05 13:04 -0700
              Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-05 23:44 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-05 23:50 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-06 00:00 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2012-10-05 23:39 +0000
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-06 12:18 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-06 12:22 +0200
              Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-10-05 15:51 -0700
          Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-10-06 13:53 +0200
  Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-09 14:16 -0600
    Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 09:00 -0600
      Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-10-10 11:34 -0400
        Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 10:28 -0600
          Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 11:45 -0600
            Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-10-10 10:52 -0700
              Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 12:47 -0600
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-11 14:17 -0600
            Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-10-10 18:20 -0400
              Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-10 16:51 -0600
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-12 14:34 +0200
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2012-10-12 09:12 -0600
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2012-10-12 11:42 -0400
                Re: Glitch in Java Collections (No descendingMap in LinkedHashMap) Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-10-12 21:02 +0200

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