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Re: Apache JDBC utils

From Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Apache JDBC utils
References <jnn1pc$33c$1@dont-email.me> <nospam-E4727E.23373001052012@news.aioe.org>
Message-ID <u78or.34999$Ex1.4127@newsfe18.iad> (permalink)
Organization Public Usenet Newsgroup Access
Date 2012-05-02 07:37 -0300

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On 12-05-02 12:37 AM, John B. Matthews wrote:
> In article <jnn1pc$33c$1@dont-email.me>, markspace <-@.> wrote:
> 
>> And: is there a better, light-weight non-ORM package that you might 
>> recommend instead?  Something a bit more complete.
> 
> Having always used JDBC, I wanted to see what a persistence unit looked 
> like. I used the "New Entity Classes from Database Wizard" in NetBeans 
> to generate an entity for a database table named CUSTOMER and clicked 
> the persistence unit button to generate a JPA controller.
> 
> Entity -> Customer.java
> Persistence unit -> CustomerJpaController.java

I'll have to run NetBeans tonight to remind myself of what it produces
as a "JPA controller". :-) Bear in mind, persistence units are actually
what are described in persistence.xml (one or more).

> Then I used these two classes to fill a JComboBox model, as shown here:
> 
> <http://stackoverflow.com/a/2531942/230513>
> 
> The example was easy to create, and I can see several things:
> 
> 1. The queries, getters, setters and annotations generated in the entity.
> 
> 2. The findCustomerXxx, create, edit and destroy methods generated in 
> the controller, which appear to correspond roughly to select, insert, 
> update and delete.
> 
Don't get me wrong, I'm a JPA enthusiast. Before it showed up I used the
native APIs in Toplink, Toplink Essentials and Hibernate, and even those
usually would win out over straight JDBC.

But what you did above just scratches the surface. It's now your
responsibility to read and understand the JPA specification and get the
lay of the land for the APIs. I mean "your" in the general sense here.

You've always used JDBC, you say. You're aware then that you have to
know quite a lot to use that well. You need to know a lot more - *plus*
understanding JDBC, IMO - to use JPA well. We've been throwing around
terms like conceptual or architectural weight - with JPA you pull in a
fair bit of that.

I don't believe that *you* would stop here - in fact you'd go ahead and
read the spec - but I've seen a fair few programmers that think that's
mostly all there is to JPA: use the IDE to generate from the DB, or vice
versa. They always run into problems sooner or later.

AHS
-- 
A fly was very close to being called a "land," cause that's what they do
half the time.
-- Mitch Hedberg

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Apache JDBC utils markspace <-@.> - 2012-04-30 14:55 -0700
  Re: Apache JDBC utils Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-04-30 20:56 -0300
    Re: Apache JDBC utils markspace <-@.> - 2012-04-30 17:50 -0700
  Re: Apache JDBC utils Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-04-30 18:03 -0700
    Re: Apache JDBC utils markspace <-@.> - 2012-04-30 19:27 -0700
      Re: Apache JDBC utils Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-05-01 10:29 -0300
        Re: Apache JDBC utils markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-01 08:57 -0700
          Re: Apache JDBC utils Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-05-02 11:16 -0700
            Re: Apache JDBC utils markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-03 07:51 -0700
    Re: Apache JDBC utils Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-01 19:22 -0400
  Re: Apache JDBC utils Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-05-01 10:32 -0700
    Re: Apache JDBC utils markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-01 11:22 -0700
      Re: Apache JDBC utils Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-05-01 15:26 -0700
        Re: Apache JDBC utils Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-05-01 19:44 -0300
  Re: Apache JDBC utils Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-01 19:26 -0400
    Re: Apache JDBC utils Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-05-01 21:14 -0300
      Re: Apache JDBC utils Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@dimnakorr.com> - 2012-05-01 22:22 -0500
        Re: Apache JDBC utils Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-03 13:52 -0400
      Re: Apache JDBC utils Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-03 13:51 -0400
        Re: Apache JDBC utils Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-05-03 17:11 -0300
          Re: Apache JDBC utils Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-03 16:58 -0400
            Re: Apache JDBC utils Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-05-03 18:25 -0300
              Re: Apache JDBC utils Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-03 19:55 -0400
    Re: Apache JDBC utils Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@dimnakorr.com> - 2012-05-01 22:08 -0500
      Re: Apache JDBC utils Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-03 13:55 -0400
        Re: Apache JDBC utils Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@dimnakorr.com> - 2012-05-03 13:44 -0500
          Re: Apache JDBC utils Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-03 15:06 -0400
  Re: Apache JDBC utils "John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-05-01 23:37 -0400
    Re: Apache JDBC utils Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-05-02 07:37 -0300
      Re: Apache JDBC utils "John B. Matthews" <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-05-02 18:51 -0400
  Re: Apache JDBC utils Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-05-02 12:22 +0200
    Re: Apache JDBC utils markspace <-@.> - 2012-05-02 08:29 -0700
      Re: Apache JDBC utils Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-05-02 22:02 +0200
        Re: Apache JDBC utils Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-05-02 14:22 -0700
          Re: Apache JDBC utils Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-05-02 18:53 -0300
          Re: Apache JDBC utils Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-05-03 00:03 +0200
            Re: Apache JDBC utils Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-05-03 00:14 +0200
            Re: Apache JDBC utils Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-05-03 00:27 +0200
              Re: Apache JDBC utils Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-03 14:03 -0400
            Re: Apache JDBC utils Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-02 18:58 -0400
            Re: Apache JDBC utils Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-05-02 16:18 -0700
          Re: Apache JDBC utils Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-05-02 15:25 -0700
            Re: Apache JDBC utils Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-05-03 00:59 +0200
              Re: Apache JDBC utils Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-05-03 14:05 -0400
            Re: Apache JDBC utils Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-05-02 16:24 -0700
              Re: Apache JDBC utils Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-05-02 16:35 -0700
              Re: Apache JDBC utils Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-05-03 01:46 +0200
              Re: Apache JDBC utils Jan Burse <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2012-05-03 01:49 +0200

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