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Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question

From Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question
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Date 2011-12-07 20:33 -0400

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On 11-12-07 07:57 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 12/7/2011 1:58 PM, Tom Anderson wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Dec 2011, Roedy Green wrote:
>>> see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/subversion.html
>>> http://mindprod.com/jgloss/tortoisesubversion.html
>>
>> I would say that in this day and age, it is no longer appropriate to
>> suggest Subversion. Subversion was the best tool available for a long
>> time, and it is still perfectly serviceable, but there are better tools
>> available now; projects using it can keep using it without worry, but
>> there is no reason for a new project, or a project adopting a new source
>> control system, to start using it.
> 
> VCS is an area where fashion often seems to overshadow
> facts.
> 
> When SVN came out then CVS was suddenly so oldfashioned - you
> could not use a VCS without atomic commits without being
> considered stone age.
> 
> I have never seen an actual problem due to CVS not having
> atomic commits. Or even read about. Maybe the problem was
> not that important.
> 
> Today with hg and git then SVN is suddenly so oldfashioned - you
> can not use a non-distributed VCS without being
> considered stone age.
> 
> The distributed part is great for code that is being worked on
> by completely independent organizations (read: large open source
> projects).
> 
> But most people do not really have that need.
> 
> So hg and git are great tools. But there are actually
> not anything wrong by using SVN or even CVS for most
> contexts.
> 
> And knowing a specific software is actually a good
> reason to continue keep using it.
> 
> Arne

I'm with you on this, Arne. You beat me to it actually. 100 percent of
the version control scenarios that I have encountered in business in
over a decade require a "central" or "master" repository and an official
keeper of the flame. Branches have to be strictly decreed and
controlled, lest anarchy result. If git or Mercurial were used in place
of SVN, the manner in which they'd have to be used would offer zero
benefits over SVN.

I agree that there are plenty of scenarios that benefit from a
distributed VCS. But a whole bunch don't.

AHS

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Two More Very General Consulting Question Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-30 21:00 +0000
  Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-11-30 21:45 +0000
    Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-30 23:00 +0000
      Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-12-01 03:06 +0000
        Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-12-06 15:24 +0000
          Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-12-06 20:59 +0000
      Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-12-07 05:45 -0800
        Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-12-07 18:58 +0000
          Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-07 18:57 -0500
            Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-12-07 20:33 -0400
              Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-12-08 16:04 +0000
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-12-09 06:53 -0400
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-12-09 12:51 +0000
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2011-12-09 17:26 +0100
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-12-09 23:12 +0000
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-12-10 12:00 +0000
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-12-10 19:53 +0000
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-12-11 00:04 +0000
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-12-10 20:12 +0000
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2011-12-12 03:05 -0700
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-12-12 06:39 -0400
            Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-12-07 20:55 -0600
              Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-12-09 10:42 +0000
        Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-07 18:48 -0500
    Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-12-07 05:43 -0800
  Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-02 20:15 -0500
  Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-12-06 16:45 -0800

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