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Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question

From Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question
Date 2011-12-07 18:58 +0000
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On Wed, 7 Dec 2011, Roedy Green wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 21:45:19 +0000 (UTC), Martin Gregorie
> <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted
> someone who said :
>
>> However, I'd strongly suggest that you don't mention the crash because 
>> IMO losing anything in a disk crash shows a certain carelessness.

Indeed it does.

> see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/subversion.html
> http://mindprod.com/jgloss/tortoisesubversion.html

I would say that in this day and age, it is no longer appropriate to 
suggest Subversion. Subversion was the best tool available for a long 
time, and it is still perfectly serviceable, but there are better tools 
available now; projects using it can keep using it without worry, but 
there is no reason for a new project, or a project adopting a new source 
control system, to start using it.

The better tools i mention include this one:

http://mercurial.selenic.com/

And another popular one that i can't in all honesty recommend.

These tools are free, featureful, reliable, straightforward, portable, 
widely used, widely documented, and interoperable with each other and with 
Subversion (sometimes via bridges, otherwise via repository conversion). 
There is every reason to use them, and no reason not to.

On Wed, 7 Dec 2011, Roedy Green wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:00:17 +0000 (UTC), Novice <novice@example..com>
> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>
>> I simply haven't had the spare cash to do something about that.
>
> IT will set you back $6 a month if you don't host the SVN server
> yourself.
>
> See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/wushnet.html

It will set you back nothing at all if you don't host the Mercurial server 
yourself:

https://bitbucket.org/

There is *no* excuse for not using source control at all, and there hasn't 
been for years. There is now *no* excuse for not having an offsite backup 
of your source control system.

tom

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Two More Very General Consulting Question Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-30 21:00 +0000
  Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-11-30 21:45 +0000
    Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-11-30 23:00 +0000
      Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-12-01 03:06 +0000
        Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Novice <novice@example..com> - 2011-12-06 15:24 +0000
          Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-12-06 20:59 +0000
      Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-12-07 05:45 -0800
        Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-12-07 18:58 +0000
          Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-07 18:57 -0500
            Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-12-07 20:33 -0400
              Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-12-08 16:04 +0000
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-12-09 06:53 -0400
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-12-09 12:51 +0000
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2011-12-09 17:26 +0100
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-12-09 23:12 +0000
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-12-10 12:00 +0000
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-12-10 19:53 +0000
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-12-11 00:04 +0000
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-12-10 20:12 +0000
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2011-12-12 03:05 -0700
                Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2011-12-12 06:39 -0400
            Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-12-07 20:55 -0600
              Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-12-09 10:42 +0000
        Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-07 18:48 -0500
    Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-12-07 05:43 -0800
  Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-12-02 20:15 -0500
  Re: Two More Very General Consulting Question Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-12-06 16:45 -0800

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