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Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser)

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On 05/01/2013 08:27 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 5/1/2013 3:22 AM, Jeff Higgins wrote:
>> On 05/01/2013 01:55 AM, lipska the kat wrote:
>>> The OP had a problem with Eclipse, as it turns out it was actually a
>>> problem with incompatible third party components. 'Helping' the OP by
>>> telling him not to use Eclipse to build his project wasn't really
>>> answering the question was it.
>>>
>> As it turns out Chuck has begun his Java education at a horrendous
>> starting place.
>
> It happens. If he was an expert in what would be a good starting
> point, then he would not be a beginner.
>
> 20 years ago I like to write my own low level IO library in assembler.
> That somewhat worked OK until I tried writing GUI stuff more
> specifically use of Xlib the same way.
>
> :-)
>
Yep.
Perhaps I've been harsh.
I'm in the very same boat with Chuck, heading aft.
I can sympathize.

For some months I've taken an earnest interest in a subject
for which there is an excellent laboratory implemented in a
Python environment. It is written by experts in both the
subject matter and in Python. Several years ago I determined
to learn the Python language. I spent a good year at it and
before loosing interest felt that I had a fair understanding.
Now I find myself exploring an unfamiliar subject in what
turns out to be an unfamiliar programming environment.

It is frustrating to have to diverge, sometimes for many hours,
from studying the matter at hand to unraveling an implementation
issue, something that should be simple but simply isn't.

What I cannot sympathize with is the "I'm busy and have better
things to do" attitude. When pressed Chuck replies with, "I'm
a working student I really don't have the time for all of that"
and "I was really hoping for an expert to show me what to do,
but since there are none here could you just point me to a wiki/tutorial 
or something?". Hell no, I say. Among other
responsibilities I've been a "working student" for forty plus
years and have just spent a precious few hours of my own
struggling to understand an unfamiliar language construct.

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Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) galois271@gmail.com - 2013-04-29 20:25 -0700
  Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-04-30 09:00 +0100
    Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) galois271@gmail.com - 2013-04-30 05:47 -0700
      Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-04-30 14:27 +0100
        Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) galois271@gmail.com - 2013-04-30 07:07 -0700
          Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-04-30 12:30 -0700
            Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-04-30 20:53 +0100
              Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Chuck Johnson <galois271@gmail.com> - 2013-04-30 13:05 -0700
              Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-04-30 21:26 -0400
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-01 06:55 +0100
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-01 03:22 -0400
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-05-01 13:10 +0200
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-02 16:44 +0100
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-01 20:27 -0400
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-02 11:33 -0400
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-01 20:23 -0400
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-05-01 18:38 -0700
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-02 16:35 +0100
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-05-02 12:29 -0700
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-02 19:46 -0400
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-05-02 18:22 -0700
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-02 21:54 -0400
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-03 13:34 +0100
  Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-04-30 09:18 -0400

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