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Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser)

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lipska the kat wrote:
> Lew wrote:
>> You are guilty of straw-man argumentation, lipska.
>
> It's spelled straw man, no hyphen

Incorrect. The hyphen is needed when a unit modifier (like "straw man" in this case)
precedes the noun modified.

> How useful do you think it is to tell someone struggling to get Eclipse 
> to do what he wants that he shouldn't be using it (for whatever reason)

What does that have to do with this conversation?

No one told the OP that he shouldn't use Eclipse, only that it should not be used 
for production builds. That is incredibly useful.

And not because I think it's useful but because it has demonstrable benefits, as mentioned 
upthread.

Bad habits are harder to unlearn than if you learn good habits to begin with.

Someone who only learns the micro-information needed for today's question without 
a sense of where the road leads will learn more slowly. To be effective at computer 
programming in particular, one must develop the habit of assimilating, even if superficially, 
the nine-tenths of the knowledge iceberg that is submerged below the waterline of 
"I think this is immediately useful". If you cannot cope with that kind of data, you will never 
grow to be a very competent programmer.

Now, I realize lipska that your argumentation is motivated entirely by the desire to disagree 
with me personally, and not to help the OP, which is why you resort to begging the question 
(calling it "misinformation") and challenging the usefulness of a useful answer without actually 
contributing any helpful information yourself.

But the fact remains that Eclipse is not optimal as a production build tool, and that there are 
standard tools for Java projects that are superior and indeed, intended for the purpose. This is 
always useful to know, even if you aren't prepared at this very instant in time to delve in depth 
into the matter. Otherwise you might form the bad habit of relying on Eclipse for something for 
which it is not well suited, and suffer the dire consequences thereof, while having to undo an 
ineffective system and unlearn bad habits. Is that what you want for the OP?

So better to set up a signpost very early in the learning path, indicating that there are dangers 
and liberating the OP to dig into that in depth now that they know there is something to research.

You would shackle them with your own arrogant prejudgment of what you in your narrow, 
self-aggrandizing view of things deem is all they need, just to snark at someone whom for 
some reason you have chosen to deprecate.

Better to know the truth than base your education on falsehood. The truth will set you free.

-- 
Lew

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Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) galois271@gmail.com - 2013-04-29 20:25 -0700
  Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-04-30 09:00 +0100
    Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) galois271@gmail.com - 2013-04-30 05:47 -0700
      Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-04-30 14:27 +0100
        Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) galois271@gmail.com - 2013-04-30 07:07 -0700
          Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-04-30 12:30 -0700
            Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-04-30 20:53 +0100
              Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Chuck Johnson <galois271@gmail.com> - 2013-04-30 13:05 -0700
              Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-04-30 21:26 -0400
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-01 06:55 +0100
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-01 03:22 -0400
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Joerg Meier <joergmmeier@arcor.de> - 2013-05-01 13:10 +0200
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-02 16:44 +0100
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-01 20:27 -0400
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-02 11:33 -0400
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-01 20:23 -0400
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-05-01 18:38 -0700
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-02 16:35 +0100
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-05-02 12:29 -0700
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-02 19:46 -0400
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2013-05-02 18:22 -0700
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2013-05-02 21:54 -0400
                Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> - 2013-05-03 13:34 +0100
  Re: Including JAR files in Eclipse 4.2, specifically Rome (RSS Feed parser) Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-04-30 09:18 -0400

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