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Re: multithreaded cache?

From Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: multithreaded cache?
Date 2012-05-18 18:31 -0400
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On 5/18/2012 5:45 PM, Robert Klemme wrote:
> On 18.05.2012 20:42, Silvio Bierman wrote:
>> On 05/17/2012 11:54 AM, Robert Klemme wrote:
>
>>> I provide a variant of Silvio's, Eric's and Daniel's solution which
>>> should yield higher throughput because it works without read write
>>> locking. You can find it as gist in case the code is garbled in the
>>> newsgroup posting:
>>> https://gist.github.com/2717818
>
>> I think you have as many locks as I suggested (being one)? My initial
>> implementations of something like this used a plain map with an extra
>> lock but later cases used the by then available ConcurrentHashMap as
>> well, making one lock redundant.
>
> You didn't show it here, did you? I can's seem to find it in the thread.
> Note that CHM does also do synchronization. I am not sure from your
> statement what exact locking scheme you apply. There does seem to be one
> difference though: I my version the second lock goes away after the
> value has been computed so there is only the sync of CHM left.

     It seems to me that if N threads query the same key at about
the same time, they may all miss the map and go off to perform
the slow computation.  If "slow" is large compared to the cost of
a lock-release pair (and if it weren't, why cache?), the tradeoff
seems suspect.

     Also, different threads may wind up using different value
instances.  If the cache is purely a convenience for a value-only
object that may be all right, but it's not all right if the values
are supposed to be singletons.

     Finally, there's more than a whiff of the double-checked locking
antipattern about what you're doing with the `here' flag.  I'm not
absolutely sure what you've got is in fact DCL (hence, wrong), but
I'm also not absolutely sure it's DCL-free.  Before using the pattern
in any important way, I'd want to check with a major-league guru,
just as "due diligence."

-- 
Eric Sosman
esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid

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multithreaded cache? bugbear <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> - 2012-05-15 10:14 +0100
  Re: multithreaded cache? Silvio Bierman <silvio@moc.com> - 2012-05-15 11:41 +0200
    Re: multithreaded cache? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-05-15 15:57 -0700
      Re: multithreaded cache? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-05-15 16:13 -0700
        Re: multithreaded cache? Silvio Bierman <silvio@moc.com> - 2012-05-16 01:22 +0200
      Re: multithreaded cache? Silvio Bierman <silvio@moc.com> - 2012-05-16 01:19 +0200
        Re: multithreaded cache? Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-05-15 20:26 -0400
          Re: multithreaded cache? Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-05-15 21:41 -0300
          Re: multithreaded cache? Silvio Bierman <silvio@moc.com> - 2012-05-16 09:26 +0200
            Re: multithreaded cache? "Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-26 14:54 -0700
        Re: multithreaded cache? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-05-16 22:03 -0700
          Re: multithreaded cache? Silvio Bierman <silvio@moc.com> - 2012-05-21 15:25 +0200
  Re: multithreaded cache? Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-05-15 08:22 -0400
  Re: multithreaded cache? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-05-15 09:56 -0700
  Re: multithreaded cache? bugbear <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> - 2012-05-16 14:33 +0100
  Re: multithreaded cache? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-05-17 11:54 +0200
    Re: multithreaded cache? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-05-17 12:06 +0200
      Re: multithreaded cache? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-05-17 09:51 -0700
        Re: multithreaded cache? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-05-17 20:48 +0200
      Re: multithreaded cache? Sebastian <sebastian@undisclosed.invalid> - 2012-05-20 01:35 +0200
        Re: multithreaded cache? Sebastian <sebastian@undisclosed.invalid> - 2012-05-20 01:48 +0200
          Re: multithreaded cache? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-05-19 18:11 -0700
    Re: multithreaded cache? Silvio Bierman <silvio@moc.com> - 2012-05-18 20:42 +0200
      Re: multithreaded cache? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-05-18 23:45 +0200
        Re: multithreaded cache? Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-05-18 18:31 -0400
          Re: multithreaded cache? Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2012-05-18 22:15 -0700
            Re: multithreaded cache? Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-05-19 07:09 -0400
          Re: multithreaded cache? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-05-19 12:33 +0200
            Re: multithreaded cache? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-05-19 14:24 -0700
              Re: multithreaded cache? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-05-21 21:15 +0200
                Re: multithreaded cache? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-05-23 23:11 -0700
                Re: multithreaded cache? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-05-24 23:05 +0200
                Re: multithreaded cache? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-05-24 20:11 -0700
                Re: multithreaded cache? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-05-25 17:42 +0200
                Re: multithreaded cache? Arved Sandstrom <asandstrom3minus1@eastlink.ca> - 2012-05-25 07:09 -0300
        Re: multithreaded cache? Silvio Bierman <silvio@moc.com> - 2012-05-21 15:21 +0200
  Re: multithreaded cache? Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2012-05-24 23:22 -0700
    Re: multithreaded cache? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-05-25 17:36 +0200
      Re: multithreaded cache? Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2012-06-02 12:27 -0700
        Re: multithreaded cache? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-06-02 21:54 +0200

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