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Re: O.T. FTP upload

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From	Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid>
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Subject	Re: O.T. FTP upload
Date	Sat, 5 Nov 2011 19:44:55 +0000 (UTC)
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 14:29:13 -0700, Lew wrote:

> On Friday, November 4, 2011 2:13:54 PM UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote:
>> On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:31:11 -0700, Lew wrote:
>> 
>> >> If your ISP supports SSH, and most do, that's a good argument for
>> >> investigating sftp and/or PuTTY (which provides a decent scp command
>> >> line tool for Windows).
>> > 
>> > Or Cygwin, which sports "ssh".
>> >
>> I was assuming that Roedy doesn't have either installed: if PuTTY can
>> do what he needs its the best choice since all it does is implement SSH
>> for Windows. Yes, I know it does/did implement Telnet as well, but
>> that's less added cruft than pulling in a shell and the core UNIX
>> utilities.
> 
> Two points:
> - How is that "cruft"?
>
Because Roedy, IIRC, used Windows and has little *nix experience. Viewed 
in the context of a Windows power user with little *nix experience, all 
the stuff you or I would regard as essentials, namely a *nix shell (does 
Cygwin include sh, ash, ksh or all three) and the Core Utils, can fairly 
be described as cruft.

> YMMV.
>
Indeed, and it does. I've never had much time for Windows and less for 
the DOS command line interpreter. Consequently, in the mid 80s I switched 
to Microware's OS/9 (a highly modular, multi-user real-time OS with an 
optional Bourne-style shell) because, at that time there was no unix 
clone available that was half as capable or nearly as affordable). I 
moved on to Linux in about 1998 (RedHat 6.2) but my OS/9 system still 
runs my accounting system and is fired up several times each week. The OS 
I use (V2.4) runs on an MC 68020. It and its utilities haven't been 
patched (or needed to be patched) since about 1992 except for tweaks we 
all did to the clock driver in 1998 in preparation for Y2K.


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