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Re: O.T. FTP upload

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On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 09:33:42 -0700, Daniel Pitts
<newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> wrote, quoted or indirectly
quoted someone who said :

>Also, never underestimate the bandwidth of a pickup truck full of 
>physical media.

That reminds me of a story. Circa 1978,  I was working at the research
labs of BC Hydro on solar energy research. I would collect a tape full
of data each day.   It turned out mainly to be a PR thing -- to
impress visitors. The brass insisted I send the data to the mainframe
20 miles away, by modem.  Modems back then were 300 baud (about 30
cps) and did not have error correction.  Further we were out in the
boonies with phone lines that liked to disconnect frequently and were
very noisy.  I protested this would be very slow and would take
special programming, especially since the mainframe did not support
any sensible protocol, and liked to go to sleep frequently to focus
its limited attention on higher priority tasks.

I wrote a robust error-correcting, stall-tolerant, re-establishing
protocol.  It was similar to my proposed SAX protocol (see
http://mindprod.com/project/sax.html) I then invited the brass to
watch.  I fired up my DEC MINC (a PDP11) and then took the tape under
my arm and headed off on my bicycle for downtown.

Of course the tape got there long before the transfer completed.

In my particular case, I do an automated upload every hour. The
problem is the ancient abandoned NETLOAD utility grinds everything
else to a halt when it runs, and it keeps going to sleep, and needs
occasional  prodding to wakefulness by minimizing/restoring. I doubt
it will survive yet another Windows "upgrade".
-- 
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
http://mindprod.com
It's difficult to be rigorous about whether a machine really knows,
thinks, etc., because we’re hard put to define these things. 
We understand human mental processes only slightly better than
a fish understands swimming. 
~ John McCarthy (born: 1927-09-04 died: 2011-10-23 at age: 84).
Inventor of the term AI (Artificial Intelligence), 
the short-circuit OR operator (|| in Java), 
and LISP (LIst Processing Language) that makes EMACS 
(Extensible MACro System) so addictive.

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O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-01 07:07 -0700
  Re: O.T. FTP upload Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2011-11-01 09:33 -0700
    Re: O.T. FTP upload Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-11-01 18:49 +0000
      Re: O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-01 23:40 -0700
    Re: O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-01 23:33 -0700
  Re: O.T. FTP upload Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-01 22:11 -0400
  Re: O.T. FTP upload Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-11-02 21:20 +0000
    Re: O.T. FTP upload Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-02 17:31 -0700
      Re: O.T. FTP upload Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-11-04 21:13 +0000
        Re: O.T. FTP upload Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-04 14:29 -0700
          Re: O.T. FTP upload Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2011-11-04 15:12 -0700
          Re: O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-04 15:15 -0700
            Re: O.T. FTP upload Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-04 21:43 -0400
          Re: O.T. FTP upload Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-11-05 19:44 +0000
            Re: O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-06 06:58 -0800
              Re: O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-08 06:58 -0800
                Re: O.T. FTP upload Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-08 16:03 +0000
                Re: O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-12 15:36 -0800
                Re: O.T. FTP upload Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-13 00:45 +0000
                Re: O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-14 05:51 -0800
  Re: O.T. FTP upload Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2011-11-02 16:47 -0600
  Re: O.T. FTP upload Wojtek <nowhere@a.com> - 2011-11-02 16:33 -0700
    Re: O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-03 03:14 -0700
      Re: O.T. FTP upload Gunter Herrmann <notformail0106@earthlink.net> - 2011-11-03 10:24 -0400
  Re: NOT O.T. FTP upload Gunter Herrmann <notformail0106@earthlink.net> - 2011-11-03 10:30 -0400
    Re: NOT O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-03 08:09 -0700
      Re: NOT O.T. FTP upload Gunter Herrmann <notformail0106@earthlink.net> - 2011-11-03 13:56 -0400
      Re: NOT O.T. FTP upload Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-03 22:26 -0400

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