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Re: O.T. FTP upload

Date 2011-11-03 10:24 -0400
From Gunter Herrmann <notformail0106@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: O.T. FTP upload
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Hi!

Roedy Green wrote:
> The poor thing has to upload a dummy file then download it again to
> find out what the server thinks the time is. FTP works off local time
> with unknown timezone.  I guess FTP was invented when no one imagined
> inter-time zone file transfers.  Such a protocol designed today would
> surely have UTC timestamps on everything and use NTP to keep the
> clocks accurate.
>
> I would have thought FTP would have evolved to use UTC on all servers.

ftp uses the time of the server. Any decent *x server runs on UTC
and does the adjustment with locale settings at log in.
Assume it is 12:00:00 ZULU.
For a user from Germany on a ssh session it will be 13:00:00 MEZ (CET).
A user from NYC will see 8:00 am
(Note the different time formats as part of the locale settings).
In an ftp session the client does not tell the server where it is located,
so the server time is provided.

Gunter in Orlando, Fl

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O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-01 07:07 -0700
  Re: O.T. FTP upload Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2011-11-01 09:33 -0700
    Re: O.T. FTP upload Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li> - 2011-11-01 18:49 +0000
      Re: O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-01 23:40 -0700
    Re: O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-01 23:33 -0700
  Re: O.T. FTP upload Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-01 22:11 -0400
  Re: O.T. FTP upload Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-11-02 21:20 +0000
    Re: O.T. FTP upload Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-02 17:31 -0700
      Re: O.T. FTP upload Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-11-04 21:13 +0000
        Re: O.T. FTP upload Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2011-11-04 14:29 -0700
          Re: O.T. FTP upload Daniel Pitts <newsgroup.nospam@virtualinfinity.net> - 2011-11-04 15:12 -0700
          Re: O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-04 15:15 -0700
            Re: O.T. FTP upload Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-04 21:43 -0400
          Re: O.T. FTP upload Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2011-11-05 19:44 +0000
            Re: O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-06 06:58 -0800
              Re: O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-08 06:58 -0800
                Re: O.T. FTP upload Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-08 16:03 +0000
                Re: O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-12 15:36 -0800
                Re: O.T. FTP upload Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-11-13 00:45 +0000
                Re: O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-14 05:51 -0800
  Re: O.T. FTP upload Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com> - 2011-11-02 16:47 -0600
  Re: O.T. FTP upload Wojtek <nowhere@a.com> - 2011-11-02 16:33 -0700
    Re: O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-03 03:14 -0700
      Re: O.T. FTP upload Gunter Herrmann <notformail0106@earthlink.net> - 2011-11-03 10:24 -0400
  Re: NOT O.T. FTP upload Gunter Herrmann <notformail0106@earthlink.net> - 2011-11-03 10:30 -0400
    Re: NOT O.T. FTP upload Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-11-03 08:09 -0700
      Re: NOT O.T. FTP upload Gunter Herrmann <notformail0106@earthlink.net> - 2011-11-03 13:56 -0400
      Re: NOT O.T. FTP upload Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-11-03 22:26 -0400

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