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Re: generics puzzle

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From	Tom Anderson <twic@urchin.earth.li>
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Subject	Re: generics puzzle
Date	Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:59:33 +0100
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2011, Eight of Seventeen wrote:

> On Oct 23, 5:51 am, Martin Gregorie <mar...@address-in-sig.invalid>
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 01:20:05 -0700, Eight of Seventeen wrote:
>>> After having used, and gotten used to, modern software with a proper
>>> user interface, why the hell would you ever use vi, or anything like it,
>>> ever again? Serious question.
>>
>> Its a good idea to know at least how to get by with vi. Two reasons:
>>
>> - it needs about the least terminal features to work correctly (this
>> includes being able to work without arrow or function keys), so if your
>> system gets completely borked you may need it to get out of the hole
>> without data loss.
>
> I'd rather pull my own teeth with a string tied to a doorknob. A much 
> easier method is to install the hard drive into a functional system as a 
> slave, then bring the full power of complex, modern tools to bear upon 
> fixing whatever troubled files are on it that need fixing.

Yeah, that works great when the drive in question is in a rack an ocean 
away. Or, indeed, a desk away - are you seriously saying you'd prefer to 
pull a disk than to SSH into a machine to fix something in a few seconds? 
Because if so, you're an idiot.

Seriously, you can argue with the use of a text-mode editor on the 
desktop, you can argue with vi being the best choice for a text-mode 
editor, but you can't argue with the utility of text-mode editors in 
general. They're an essential blade in the working geek's Swiss army 
knife.

tom

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