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Re: FireFox Bug 856969 -Too much recursion error with Java LiveConnect Applet

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"Richard Maher"  wrote in message news:kl01s2$6kq$4@speranza.aioe.org...

Apologies for the lack of indentation, reply at the end...

On 4/16/2013 7:01 PM, Silvio wrote:
> On 04/16/2013 11:47 AM, Richard Maher wrote:

>>
>> Is everyone at Java engineering just used to being bitch-slapped in
>> public these days or does Larry look after his assets?
>>
>> Cheers Richard Maher
>

> Applets are an archaic artefact and Larry does not give a damn about
> them. The same goes for the browser developers.
>
>

Bollocks!!!

As can be seen from
http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/security-it/oracle-fixes-42-holes-in-java-to-revive-confidence-20130417-2hz6n.html#ixzz2QfmbSO5B
there is an aggressive (albeit reactive) effort to firm-up Applets. Let
alone the giant strides that were made with the new applet plugin circa
6.10.

http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/jweb/applet/applet_execution.html

Yet another parrot with the HTML5 mantra :-( SVG? SVfuckingG? Are you
serious??? Have you not seen what Adobe Flex does or do you just choose
to be blind? Then what about WebWorkers and WebSockets? Has anyone seen
two other functionally deficient and naive pieces of shit since kosher BLTs?

Anyway if there are other than fanbois here can I please have a "me too"
at: -

https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/details/784918/out-of-stack-space-error-with-java-liveconnect-applet#details

and

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=856969

and if you're really lonely: -

http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?can=2&start=0&num=100&

q=&colspec=ID%20Pri%20M%20Iteration%20ReleaseBlock%20Cr%20Status%20

Owner%20Summary%20OS%20Modified&groupby=&sort=&id=129528

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Richard, I used to be a very strong proponent of applets.  However, the 
browser manufacturers are so hell-bent on making the applet user experience 
so incredibly painful that I no longer think they are a viable technology. 
The applet user virtually has to jump through flaming hoops just to launch 
one of these things nowadays.

Don't get me wrong, applets are and always will be superior in what they can 
achieve over HTML but as no one but Oracle wants them to succeed (and even 
then that's questionable), I just can't see them ever achieving any 
penetration into the world of web applications.

Added to this is the extreme hit that "brand Java" is taking in general with 
the frequent and recurrent security issues.  Perhaps it's been blown out of 
proportion by the anti-Java crowd but there's no doubt that public faith in 
anything Java running in a web browser is at an all-time low.

For Java-based UIs, there's really only one choice: JavaFX.  And it's a 
really good choice!  With most vendors releasing native apps instead of 
HTML-based apps on many platforms now, JavaFX provides an excellent way to 
leverage the power and functionality of the Java platform.  And, if you 
still insist, it *does* in fact run inside a web browser :-)

--
And loving it,

-Qu0ll (Rare, not extinct)
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FireFox Bug 856969 -Too much recursion error with Java LiveConnect Applet Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2013-04-02 20:44 +0800
  Re: FireFox Bug 856969 -Too much recursion error with Java LiveConnect Applet Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2013-04-16 17:47 +0800
    Re: FireFox Bug 856969 -Too much recursion error with Java LiveConnect Applet Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2013-04-16 13:01 +0200
      Re: FireFox Bug 856969 -Too much recursion error with Java LiveConnect Applet Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2013-04-21 14:44 +0800
        Re: FireFox Bug 856969 -Too much recursion error with Java LiveConnect Applet "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2013-04-21 20:17 +1000
          Re: FireFox Bug 856969 -Too much recursion error with Java LiveConnect Applet Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2013-04-25 10:20 +0800
            Re: FireFox Bug 856969 -Too much recursion error with Java LiveConnect Applet "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2013-04-25 15:14 +1000

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