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Re: FireFox Bug 856969 -Too much recursion error with Java LiveConnect Applet

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On 04/16/2013 11:47 AM, Richard Maher wrote:
> On 4/2/2013 8:44 PM, Richard Maher wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have worked out what I was doing wrong with the previous Chrome
>> error: -
>> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=129528
>>
>> So now Chrome is good to go but FF and IE are still causing/exhibiting
>> problems under certain circumstances. I have really, really narrowed
>> down the SSCCE and causes/effects for what I feel is demonstrably a bug
>> with these browsers.
>>
>> See the following for complete FireFox details: -
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=856969
>>
>> I don't think there's much on the Java or Javascript side that I can do
>> to mitigate the failure more than I have but I'm open to suggestions
>> from those of you with experience of LiveConnect.
>>
>> If you can help solve the problem please do. (If you just respond to
>> hear your own voice then please piss off)
>>
>> Cheers Richard Maher
>
>   This from  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=856969 :-
>
> (In reply to Benjamin Smedberg  [:bsmedberg] from comment #24)
>  > At this point, this issue is not a priority for the project. The java
> plugin
>  > is a closed-source blob that has a very poor track record of spinning
> nested
>  > event loops when it is not correct or safe to do so, and so we have been
>  > more and more aggressively preventing it from doing so. The correct
> solution
>  > to this bug is to stop using Java.
>  >
>  > If somebody wants to provide a backtrace which identifies exactly how
> the
>  > recursion happens, I can provide details about how you might be able
> to fix
>  > the problem. Until then, this issue is not going to be tracked.
>
>   and . . .
>
> (In reply to Benjamin Smedberg  [:bsmedberg] from comment #26)
>  > The Mozilla project definitely has hostility toward Java, but it's not
>  > prejudicial. It is clear that the design of the Java plugin and code is
>  > fundamentally insecure, and the repeated exploits against it and slow
>  > response times make it clear that the Java plugin is not something that
>  > should be part of the web. We have to continue supporting it for legacy
>  > sites, but Java will be blocked by default and users will have to
> agree to
>  > override the security warning in order to enable Java in the near
> future.
>
> and . . .
>
> (In reply to Richard Maher from comment #33)
>  > (In reply to Benjamin Smedberg  [:bsmedberg] from comment #26)
>  > > . . .but Java will be blocked by default and users will have to
> agree to
>  > > override the security warning in order to enable Java in the near
> future.
>  >
>  > Churlish, unworthy, and quite frankly proprietary :-(
>
>
> Is everyone at Java engineering just used to being bitch-slapped in
> public these days or does Larry look after his assets?
>
> Cheers Richard Maher


Somewhere around 2K I used to have Applets inside web-applications both 
as visual components and as a generic Ajax communication broker avant la 
lettre that selectively posted JS-events to the server and adjusted the 
HTML from the response.

I replaced the Ajaxy stuff with equivalent JS in 2001 and have stayed 
away from visual components that might once have required Applets until 
SVG and later HTML5 gave me the proper tools.

Applets are an archaic artefact and Larry does not give a damn about 
them. The same goes for the browser developers.

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FireFox Bug 856969 -Too much recursion error with Java LiveConnect Applet Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2013-04-02 20:44 +0800
  Re: FireFox Bug 856969 -Too much recursion error with Java LiveConnect Applet Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2013-04-16 17:47 +0800
    Re: FireFox Bug 856969 -Too much recursion error with Java LiveConnect Applet Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2013-04-16 13:01 +0200
      Re: FireFox Bug 856969 -Too much recursion error with Java LiveConnect Applet Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2013-04-21 14:44 +0800
        Re: FireFox Bug 856969 -Too much recursion error with Java LiveConnect Applet "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2013-04-21 20:17 +1000
          Re: FireFox Bug 856969 -Too much recursion error with Java LiveConnect Applet Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2013-04-25 10:20 +0800
            Re: FireFox Bug 856969 -Too much recursion error with Java LiveConnect Applet "Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> - 2013-04-25 15:14 +1000

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