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Re: Single Class Object Model - new release

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On 12 juin, 03:55, Leif Roar Moldskred <le...@dimnakorr.com> wrote:
> micha <ludic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > - moreover as a way to show that it(s not mandatory that the
> > usefulness of an object model resideds in it's API (the default
> > assumption), but instead in the semantic network of instances that you
> > can build with it, that's the main idea within SCOM: it's instances
> > are easily assembled in a semantic network by using triples as the
> > semantic atom (Subject --predicayte--> Object, like RDF which is the
> > foundation of Semantic Web)
>
> Wouldn't it be easier and more convenient to just program in Common
> Lisp from the get go? (The above just strikes me as an example of
> Greenspun's tenth rule in action.)
>
> --
> Leif Roar Moldskred

Hello Leif

Thanks for the Greenspun's tenth rule (thought I matbe heard about it
long time ago but that's a nice piece of thinking to highlight for
sure)
Well, Lisp especially Common Lisp is pure in the intention not so much
in the facts: there's a huge number of functions in Common Lisp, not
all
absolutely legitimate to be in the core of a language, then there was
Scheme which seems to be a 'minimalist Scheme'. In fact all functional
languages share this property to leverage the expressiveness, now we
have functional (lambda calculus) in a wide variety of flavors even
some on JVM (Scala, Groovy, Clojure) or CLR (Clojure, F#)

BUT nevertheless Java has an unsurpassed firepower with tons of
libraries, frameworks and dialects, so it could be useful if only for
that reason (while  Lisp developers have much more trouble to find
software components for their needs so they may find themselves
working hard to wrap a java component for Lisp instead of writing the
business domain code)

AND SCOM is not only about levererage of functional programming but
also:
- about Adaptative Object Model (which is also already native but more
in Smalltalk than in Lisp as Common Lisp is not an Object language
from the start but requires an extension layer (CLOS) to support
Object paradigm)
- and about Semantic Web paradigm, starting with semantic networks
described as triples by RDF/Owl:SCOM provides a simple and
  straightforward mechanism (addfacet() method)  to build such 'triple
based' semantic networks at runtime (like DOM is the runtime
  data structure counterpart of an XML file)

NOW there is Scala which is both functional and Object BUT not a
purely interpreted metalanguage like Lisp (Lisp allows to define new
Languages with it's bootstrapping/dynamic syntax capabilities)

SO SCOM is not an attempt to do better than breakthrough languages
like Scala, it's only an attempt to show that within Java microcosm,
there's still ways to leverage expressiveness by adopting new
paradigms namely Adaptative Object Model, Semantic Web inspired
runtime data structures (not by extending Java with tons of new
features which address implementation needs without really adding
expressiveness or in the best case clearing out some inconsistencies,
like int vs Integer, [] vs ArrayList etc...)

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Single Class Object Model - new release micha <kernmichel@yahoo.fr> - 2012-06-11 15:45 -0700
  Re: Single Class Object Model - new release Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-11 16:38 -0700
    Re: Single Class Object Model - new release micha <ludicite@gmail.com> - 2012-06-11 18:39 -0700
      Re: Single Class Object Model - new release Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@dimnakorr.com> - 2012-06-11 20:55 -0500
        Re: Single Class Object Model - new release micha <ludicite@gmail.com> - 2012-06-11 21:42 -0700
          Re: Single Class Object Model - new release Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-06-12 18:24 +0200
            Re: Single Class Object Model - new release micha <ludicite@gmail.com> - 2012-06-12 13:09 -0700
              Re: Single Class Object Model - new release Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-06-12 23:48 +0200
                Re: Single Class Object Model - new release micha <ludicite@gmail.com> - 2012-06-13 01:12 -0700
                Re: Single Class Object Model - new release Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-06-13 06:44 -0700
                Re: Single Class Object Model - new release micha <ludicite@gmail.com> - 2012-06-13 15:22 -0700
                Re: Single Class Object Model - new release Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-06-14 00:56 -0700
                Re: Single Class Object Model - new release micha <ludicite@gmail.com> - 2012-06-14 03:24 -0700
                Re: Single Class Object Model - new release Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@dimnakorr.com> - 2012-06-14 12:27 -0500
          Re: Single Class Object Model - new release Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-06-12 10:05 -0700
            Re: Single Class Object Model - new release micha <ludicite@gmail.com> - 2012-06-12 13:03 -0700
              Re: Single Class Object Model - new release Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@dimnakorr.com> - 2012-06-12 15:58 -0500
                Re: Single Class Object Model - new release micha <ludicite@gmail.com> - 2012-06-13 02:08 -0700
              Re: Single Class Object Model - new release Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-06-12 23:33 +0200
              Re: Single Class Object Model - new release markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-12 15:15 -0700
                Re: Single Class Object Model - new release micha <ludicite@gmail.com> - 2012-06-13 02:57 -0700
                Re: Single Class Object Model - new release markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-13 08:26 -0700
                Re: Single Class Object Model - new release micha <ludicite@gmail.com> - 2012-06-13 15:17 -0700
                Re: Single Class Object Model - new release Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-06-13 19:06 -0700
                Re: Single Class Object Model - new release markspace <-@.> - 2012-06-13 19:15 -0700

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