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Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best?

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On 7/4/2012 10:47 AM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 10:14:54 -0700, Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 7/4/2012 10:04 AM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>> ...
>>>        Knowing something of the layer below (or even more) can help one
>>> get more out of the system.  If you insist on using black boxes and
>>> keeping it that way, then you do not understand the system.
>> ...
>>
>> I've treated emacs and other tools as black boxes on systems I
>> understood at every level down to details of the processor design.
>
>       If you know the system to that level, it is not a black box.

If you define "black box" in such a way that it is not possible to treat
something as a black box even if one understands the system, then "If
you insist on using black boxes and keeping it that way, then you do not
understand the system." is indeed a tautology.

I prefer a more functional view of "black box" in which one can treat
something as a black box by only considering and using its external
features, regardless of deeper understanding.

Patricia

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Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? ericmiranda7@gmail.com - 2012-06-30 23:32 -0700
  Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-07-01 03:53 -0700
  Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2012-07-01 07:37 -0700
  Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Patrick May <patrick@softwarematters.org> - 2012-07-01 14:20 -0400
    Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-07-01 14:44 -0700
      Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Patrick May <patrick@softwarematters.org> - 2012-07-03 20:48 -0400
        Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-07-03 19:55 -0700
          Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> - 2012-07-04 09:26 +0100
            Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Patrick May <patrick@softwarematters.org> - 2012-07-05 13:36 -0400
              Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-07-05 13:25 -0700
              Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Joseph Parkton <jparkton@gmail.com> - 2012-07-19 21:54 -0700
          Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-07-04 10:04 -0700
            Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-07-04 10:14 -0700
              Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-07-04 10:47 -0700
                Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-07-04 12:32 -0700
                Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-07-04 13:01 -0700
                Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2012-07-04 16:03 -0700
                Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-07-04 17:38 -0700
                Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-07-06 08:29 -0700
  Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Timothy Madden <terminatorul@gmail.com> - 2012-08-21 16:21 +0300
    Re: Whay IDE am I supposed to use/is the best? Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2012-08-21 11:47 -0700

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