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Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced?

From Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced?
Date 2012-06-28 02:57 -0700
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On Jun 28, 9:16 am, quiet_lad <gavcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 20, 1:03 am, Mark Wills <markrobertwi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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> > On Jun 20, 1:06 am, quiet_lad <gavcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > >http://web.archive.org/web/19991022233047/www.itvc.com/Technology/4os...
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> > > 4os is the first Operating System written completely in Forth
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> > >     What do you mean by complete?
> > >     How  can I get a copy?
> > >     What services are available?
> > >     Why Forth?
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> > > 4os is a complete networked information appliance operating system
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> > > All the system services needed for a networked device have been
> > > implemented. The network stack is complete and written in ANS standard
> > > Forth (IP/UDP/TCP/SLIP/PPP/DNS/TFTP).
> > > 4os is only available from The iTV Corporation
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> > > Currently 4os is only available as part of iTvc's Internet products.
> > > Individuals interested in licensing the operating system separately
> > > should contact us.
> > > 4os provides extensive services to the application developer
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> > > System has task, memory management, objects and structs, display
> > > device, keyboard and remote control devices, flash file system,
> > > windowing, font, user interface widgets, and exception handling
> > > services.
> > > 4os was implemented in Forth because it requires less from the
> > > processor and product
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> > > A complete Internet system (OS, live Forth system, network stack,
> > > flash file system, GIF and JPEG decoder, fonts, network support
> > > applications, email and browser customer applications) requires less
> > > than 1/2 megabyte of program memory. With boot compression (comes
> > > standard, takes about 1 second) that system fits in a 128Kbyte ROM.
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> > During my many conversations with Jeff Fox, I could never pin him down
> > on 4os. It was the only subject that he was a little evasive on! I was
> > left with the impression that the claims regarding 4os were written
> > more for potential investors than customers, and that in actual fact,
> > 4os was not as developed as was being claimed at the time.
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> > I have no proof of that at all, however!
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> :(
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> bummer
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> be awesome to show up the C world with a working os done in forth with
> working gui and web browser
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> maybe thats millions of times harder than I imagine- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Indeed it would be nice. It's a shame it never saw the light of day. I
didn't push him on the subject, unless he brought it up. I got the
feeling that it brought back bad memories for him.

RIP Jeff.

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any chance of 4os being open sourced? quiet_lad <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2012-06-19 17:06 -0700
  Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-06-19 14:14 -1000
    Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? quiet_lad <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2012-06-19 21:03 -0700
      Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-06-19 20:46 -1000
  Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-06-20 01:03 -0700
    Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? quiet_lad <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2012-06-28 01:16 -0700
      Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-06-28 02:57 -0700
      Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? marko <marko@marko.marko> - 2012-06-28 21:25 +1000
        Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-06-28 09:45 -0700
          Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? marko <marko@marko.marko> - 2012-06-29 10:28 +1000
            Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-06-28 14:47 -1000
              Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? forther <forther@gmail.com> - 2012-06-28 20:49 -0700
            Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2012-06-28 21:10 -0700
              Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-06-28 21:17 -0700
                Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? vandys@vsta.org - 2012-06-29 04:58 +0000
                Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-06-29 03:42 -0500
                Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? quiet_lad <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2012-06-29 15:26 -0700
                Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? quiet_lad <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2012-06-29 15:34 -0700
                Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-06-30 00:37 -0700
                Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? "A. K." <akk@nospam.org> - 2012-06-30 11:06 +0200
                Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-06-30 04:28 -0500
                Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? quiet_lad <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2012-07-02 13:54 -0700
                Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? rugxulo@gmail.com - 2012-07-04 06:27 -0700
                Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? quiet_lad <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2012-07-05 08:34 -0700
                Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? quiet_lad <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2012-07-02 13:53 -0700
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            Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2012-06-29 16:18 -0700
        Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? quiet_lad <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2012-06-29 15:11 -0700
          Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? marko <marko@marko.marko> - 2012-07-01 13:24 +1000
            Re: any chance of 4os being open sourced? quiet_lad <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2012-07-02 13:52 -0700
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