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| From | Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: Microsoft Will now support C11 and C17 standard!!!!!!!!!! |
| Date | 2020-09-18 23:44 -0700 |
| Organization | None to speak of |
| Message-ID | <87eemyclkz.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> (permalink) |
| References | <rjt97j$8in$1@gioia.aioe.org> <rjvp99$fdd$1@dont-email.me> <87o8m4o0vv.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <86d02i1e46.fsf@linuxsc.com> |
Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
> Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
>> Leo <usenet@gkbrk.com> writes:
>>> This is good news for those cross-compiling their software. Not sure
>>> how hopeful I am though, does MSVC even support C99 properly now?
>>
>> That won't ever happen. C11 made VLAs optional and that cleared the way
>> for MS to support later standards.
>
> Do you know why Microsoft objected to VLAs? I've searched the
> web a bit but wasn't able to find anything with any real
> substance.
The article at the top of this thread cited this article:
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/cppblog/c11-and-c17-standard-support-arriving-in-msvc/
which says:
Astute readers will note that VLAs are also not
supported. Variable length arrays are generally less efficient
than comparable fixed sized arrays, and generally inefficient
compared to equivalent malloc(), when safely and securely
implemented. VLAs provide attack vectors comparable to those
of the infamous gets() — deprecated and destined to removal
— for opportunities of “shifting the stack” and other
exploits. For these reasons we intend not to support VLAs as
an optional feature in C11.
(I'm not endorsing the claims in the article, just reporting them.)
[...]
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Philips Healthcare
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */
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