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Re: VAX

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John Ames [2025-08-04 08:32:19] wrote:
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> What do you mean by that?  IIUC, the difference between 32bit and
>> 64bit (in terms of cost of designing and producing the CPU) was very
>> small. MIPS happily designed their R4000 as 64bit while knowing that
>> most of them would never get a chance to execute an instruction that
>> makes use of the upper 32bits.
> This notion that the only advantage of a 64-bit architecture is a large
> address space is very curious to me.

By "upper bits" I didn't mean to restrict it to the address space.
AFAIK it would take several years before the OS and the rest of the
tools started to support the use of instructions manipulating 64bits.
By that time, many of those machines started to be decommissioned:
The R4000 came out in late 1991, while the first version of Irix with
support for the 64bit ISA on that CPU was released only in early 1996
(there was an earlier 64bit version of Irix but only for the R8000
processor).

The same happened to some extent with the early amd64 machines, which
ended up running 32bit Windows and applications compiled for the i386
ISA.  Those processors were successful mostly because they were fast at
running i386 code (with the added marketing benefit of being "64bit
ready"): it took 2 years for MS to release a matching OS.

And I can't see why anyone would consider it a waste.
AFAIK it was cheap to implement, and without it, there wouldn't have
been the installed base of 64bit machines needed to justify investing
into software development for that new ISA.


        Stefan

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                Re: VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-03 09:14 +0000
                Re: VAX Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-08-03 07:41 -0700
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                Re: VAX BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 11:47 -0500
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                Re: 32 vs 64 bits, was VAX Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-08-04 22:17 +0300
                Re: 32 vs 64 bits, was VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-05 01:36 +0000
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                Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-06 16:34 +0000
                Re: VAX Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-08-31 16:43 -0400
                Re: VAX Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-31 22:26 +0000
                Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-09-01 06:07 +0000
                Re: VAX Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-01 06:57 +0000
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                Re: Debian on AMD64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-09-01 11:33 -0500
                Re: Debian on AMD64 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-09-01 20:34 +0000
                Re: VAX Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-08-04 14:06 -0700
                Re: VAX Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-08-05 00:21 +0300
                Re: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-04 21:51 +0000
                Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-04 23:38 +0000
                Re: VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-05 01:39 +0000
                Re: VAX "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-08-05 09:25 +0100
                Re: VAX Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-08-05 17:24 +0200
                Re: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-05 15:41 +0000
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                Re: System calls (was: VAX) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-13 18:15 +0000
                Re: System calls (was: VAX) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-08-13 19:40 +0000
                Re: System calls (was: VAX) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-08-13 19:25 +0000
                Re: System calls (was: VAX) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-13 21:23 +0000
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                Re: System calls (was: VAX) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-08-14 15:14 +0000
                Re: System calls (was: VAX) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-08-14 15:25 +0000
                Re: System calls (was: VAX) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-14 15:32 +0000
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                Re: System calls cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-08-14 21:44 +0000
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                Re: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-06 13:48 +0000
                Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-04 23:24 +0000
                Re: VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-05 01:41 +0000
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                Re: 3-way long addition anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-19 17:43 +0000
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                Re: 3-way long addition (was: VAX) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-08-19 17:24 +0300
                Re: 3-way long addition (was: VAX) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-08-19 23:03 +0300
                Re: 3-way long addition Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-08-20 10:50 +0200
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                Re: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-04 14:22 +0000
                Re: VAX Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-08-04 16:46 +0200
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                Re: VAX Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-08-04 15:09 -0400
                Re: VAX Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-08-04 22:31 +0300
                Re: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-04 20:29 +0000
                Re: VAX Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-08-05 00:08 +0300
                Re: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-04 21:23 +0000
                Re: VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-05 06:46 +0000
                Re: VAX BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-08-05 03:14 -0500
                Re: VAX Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-08-05 11:52 -0700
                Re: VAX Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-06 05:37 +0000
                Re: VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-06 06:20 +0000
                Re: VAX BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 12:12 -0500
                I32LP64 vs. ILP64 (was: VAX) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-06 11:28 +0000
                Re: I32LP64 vs. ILP64 antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-06 15:55 +0000
                Re: I32LP64 vs. ILP64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-08-06 12:47 -0500
                Re: I32LP64 vs. ILP64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-08-06 12:00 -0500
                Re: I32LP64 vs. ILP64 (was: VAX) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-06 23:34 +0000
                Re: VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-05 05:38 +0000
                Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-06 11:05 +0000
                Re: VAX BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-08-06 12:12 -0500
                Re: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-06 18:22 +0000
                Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-06 10:32 +0000
                Re: 64 bits, was VAX John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-08-06 17:25 +0000
                Re: 64 bits, was VAX Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-08-06 12:11 -0700
                Re: individual 64 bits, was VAX John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-08-06 19:50 +0000
                Re: individual 64 bits, was VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-06 20:30 +0000
                Re: 64 bits, was VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-06 23:36 +0000
                Re: 64 bits, was VAX Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-08-07 15:44 +0200
                Re: 64 bits, was VAX Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-08-07 07:34 -0700
                Re: 64 bits, S/360 was VAX John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-08-07 20:54 +0000
                Re: 64 bits, was VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 03:51 +0000
                Bit addressing (was: 64 bits) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-07 14:57 +0000
                Re: Bit addressing drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-08-07 15:54 +0000
                Re: Bit addressing Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-08-07 13:01 -0700
                Re: Bit addressing (was: 64 bits) Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-08-07 13:34 -0700
                Re: VAX Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-06 23:12 +0000
                Re: VAX John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-08-06 23:15 +0000
                Re: VAX Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-08-06 23:32 +0000
                Re: word lengths in C, was VAX John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-08-07 02:56 +0000
                Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-07 11:21 +0000
                Re: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-07 13:34 +0000
                Re: VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-06 23:38 +0000
                Re: VAX Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-08-04 12:42 +0300
                Re: VAX Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-08-04 03:32 -0700
                Re: VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-05 05:37 +0000
                Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-04 13:42 +0000
                Re: VAX Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-08-04 16:50 +0100
                Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-04 23:52 +0000
                Re: VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-05 05:35 +0000
                Re: VAX cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-08-05 01:31 +0000
                Re: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-05 13:46 +0000
                Re: VAX cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-08-05 17:21 +0000
                ILP32 code on 64-bit substrate (was: VAX) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-12 15:28 +0000
                Re: ILP32 code on 64-bit substrate (was: VAX) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-12 16:08 +0000
                Re: ILP32 code on 64-bit substrate BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-08-12 11:53 -0500
                Re: ILP32 code on 64-bit substrate aph@littlepinkcloud.invalid - 2025-08-12 17:57 +0000
                Re: ILP32 code on 64-bit substrate John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-08-12 19:09 +0000
                Re: ILP32 code on 64-bit substrate OrangeFish <OrangeFish@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 11:42 -0400
                Re: ILP32 code on 64-bit substrate anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-13 06:11 +0000
                Re: ILP32 code on 64-bit substrate scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-13 14:24 +0000
                Re: ILP32 code on 64-bit substrate anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-13 18:13 +0000
              Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-02 09:28 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-02 15:29 +0000
                Re: VAX Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-08-02 15:33 -0700
                Re: VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-02 23:17 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-02 23:20 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-04 17:23 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-04 18:16 +0000
                Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-04 14:39 -0400
                Re: VAX Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-04 19:59 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-04 18:59 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-08-04 22:12 +0300
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-04 20:13 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-08-04 23:54 +0300
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-08-04 14:41 -0700
                Re: VAX BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-08-04 17:18 -0500
                Re: VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-05 01:53 +0000
                Re: VAX "Brian G. Lucas" <bagel99@gmail.com> - 2025-08-05 13:04 -0500
                O.T. Where is Mitch? Was: VAX Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-08-07 23:48 +0300
                Re: O.T. Where is Mitch? Was: VAX "Brian G. Lucas" <bagel99@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 16:01 -0500
                Re: O.T. Where is Mitch? Was: VAX BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 01:41 -0500
                Re: O.T. Where is Mitch? Was: VAX Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-08-08 11:58 +0200
                Re: O.T. Where is Mitch? Was: VAX Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-08-08 13:20 +0300
                Re: O.T. Where is Mitch? Was: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-08 14:22 +0000
                Re: O.T. Where is Mitch? Was: VAX Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2025-08-08 18:34 +0300
                Re: O.T. Where is Mitch? Was: VAX George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2025-08-08 19:07 -0400
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-05 21:01 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-06 00:59 +0000
                Re: VAX Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-08-05 20:15 -0700
                Re: VAX Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-06 05:50 +0000
                Re: VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-06 07:28 +0000
                Re: VAX cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-08-06 10:48 +0000
                Re: VAX Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-06 16:35 +0000
                Re: VAX cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-08-08 01:57 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-06 08:28 -0700
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-06 23:45 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-07 01:49 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 08:28 -0700
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-13 09:37 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-13 08:22 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-13 14:26 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-13 17:50 +0000
                Re: VAX drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-08-14 17:12 +0000
                Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-14 15:22 -0400
                Re: VAX Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-08-14 12:59 -0700
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-13 14:44 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-13 17:46 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-08-13 18:26 +0000
                Re: VAX Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-08-13 12:09 -0700
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-05 01:47 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-05 13:58 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-06 16:47 +0000
                Re: VAX Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-08-06 12:12 -0700
                Re: VAX Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-08-07 01:36 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-07 05:29 +0000
                Re: VAX Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-08-07 07:26 -0700
                Re: VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 03:57 +0000
                Re: VAX Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-08-08 11:43 +0300
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-06 14:00 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-08-06 10:20 -0700
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> - 2025-08-06 22:30 +0000
                Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-06 20:21 -0400
                Re: VAX Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-07 02:22 +0000
                Re: VAX John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-07 08:38 -0700
                Re: VAX Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-08-07 17:52 +0200
                Re: VAX George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2025-08-07 21:53 -0400
                Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-08 06:16 +0000
                Re: VAX George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2025-08-08 19:48 -0400
                Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-07 10:27 +0000
                Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-07 11:06 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-08-04 12:27 -0700
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-05 01:46 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-06 16:21 +0000
                Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-05 01:43 +0000
            Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-01 23:41 +0000
              Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-03 16:42 +0000
                Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-05 00:55 +0000
                Re: VAX Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-05 05:44 +0000
                Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-12 15:02 +0000
                Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-13 14:40 -0400
                Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-15 03:20 +0000
                Re: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-15 15:10 +0000
                Re: VAX pages John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-08-15 16:53 +0000
                Re: VAX pages BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 13:19 -0500
                Re: VAX pages Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-08-15 12:03 -0700
                Re: VAX pages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-15 19:19 +0000
                Re: VAX and other pages John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-08-15 20:40 +0000
                Re: VAX and other pages anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-15 21:22 +0000
                Re: VAX and other pages John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-08-16 01:22 +0000
                Re: VAX and other pages anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-16 05:09 +0000
                Re: VAX and other pages Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-08-16 10:00 -0700
                Re: VAX and other pages John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-08-16 17:06 +0000
                Re: VAX and other pages antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-20 01:49 +0000
                Re: VAX and other pages John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-08-20 02:49 +0000
                Re: VAX pages BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 03:17 -0500
        Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-07-31 04:26 +0000
          Re: VAX John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-07-31 16:05 +0000
            Re: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-07-31 19:01 +0000
              Re: VAX John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-07-31 19:57 +0000
                Re: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-07-31 21:24 +0000
            Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-01 02:18 +0000
              Re: VAX encoding John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-08-01 15:30 +0000
                Re: VAX encoding antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-01 18:08 +0000
                Re: VAX encoding scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-01 18:33 +0000
                Re: VAX encoding antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-01 21:24 +0000
                Re: VAX encoding Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-01 19:13 +0000
                Re: VAX encoding MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-08-28 15:10 +0000
                Re: VAX encoding EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-29 10:34 -0400
              Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-02 09:02 +0000
                Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-05 01:43 +0000
                Re: VAX Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-05 05:48 +0000
                Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-05 14:13 +0000
                Re: VAX George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2025-08-05 17:41 -0400
                Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-06 10:23 -0400
                Re: VAX George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2025-08-08 21:43 -0400
                Re: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-05 13:56 +0000
                Re: VAX cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-08-05 16:44 +0000
                Re: VAX Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-06 05:53 +0000
                Re: VAX cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-08-06 11:10 +0000
                Re: VAX Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-06 20:06 +0000
                Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-06 17:00 -0400
                Re: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-06 21:14 +0000
                Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-07 11:59 +0000
                Re: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-07 15:03 +0000
                Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-06 17:57 -0400
                Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-07 11:29 +0000
                Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-07 11:38 +0000
                Re: VAX BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 15:26 -0500
                Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-17 06:16 +0000
                Re: VAX BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 11:29 -0500
                Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-17 10:00 -0400
                Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-17 15:21 +0000
                Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-17 19:10 +0000
                Re: VAX BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 15:08 -0500
                Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-18 11:03 -0400
                Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-18 15:35 +0000
                Re: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-18 17:19 +0000
                Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-20 14:36 -0400
                Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-20 16:41 -0400
                Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-21 16:21 +0000
                Re: VAX BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 12:53 -0500
                Re: VAX Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> - 2025-08-06 23:43 +0000
                Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-07 10:47 +0000
                Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-08 10:08 -0400
                Re: VAX Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-09 08:07 +0000
                Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-09 10:03 -0400
                Re: VAX Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-09 20:54 +0000
                Re: VAX Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-08-09 14:57 -0700
                Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-13 14:18 -0400
                Re: VAX Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-13 20:23 +0000
                Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-17 13:35 -0400
                Re: VAX BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 18:56 -0500
                Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-20 19:17 -0400
                Re: VAX BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-08-20 23:50 -0500
                Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-06 20:41 -0400
                Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-07 11:16 +0000
                Re: VAX cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-08-09 09:04 +0000
                Re: VAX Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-09 10:00 +0000
                Re: VAX cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-08-10 12:06 +0000
                Re: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-10 15:18 +0000
                Re: byte me, PDP-10 edition, was VAX John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-08-10 19:55 +0000
                Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-11 08:17 +0000
                Re: VAX scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-08-11 14:51 +0000
                Re: VAX Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-11 17:27 +0000
                Re: VAX Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-10 21:01 +0000
                Re: VAX cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-08-13 11:25 +0000
                Re: VAX Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-15 05:07 +0000
                Re: VAX cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-08-15 12:57 +0000
                Re: VAX Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> - 2025-08-15 13:36 +0000
                Re: VAX Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-18 05:48 +0000
                Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-05 20:34 +0000
                Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-12 15:59 +0000
                Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-20 03:47 +0000
                Re: VAX Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-21 19:26 +0000
                Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-22 16:36 +0000
                Re: VAX Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-22 17:21 +0000
                Re: VAX John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-08-22 16:45 +0000
                Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-23 16:38 +0000
                Re: 360/91, was VAX John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-08-23 19:36 +0000
          Re: VAX anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-01 17:25 +0000
          Re: VAX MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:56 +0000
            Re: VAX antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-08-28 07:49 +0000
        Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-08-27 00:35 +0000
          Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-08-27 05:12 +0000
            Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-27 10:56 -0400
              Re: VAX EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-08-28 13:39 -0400
          Re: VAX (was: Why I've Dropped In) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-08-27 17:19 +0000

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