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In sci.electronics.design Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
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Dear Doctor Sloman,

Thanks for informing me about Steenkolenengels.

I want to quote an old comp.compilers post by its moderator about how
FORTRAN programmers are not bothered to consult the FORTRAN standard
(circa FORTRAN-66) so they insist that they know FORTRAN when they do
not, so a new FORTRAN standard (circa FORTRAN-77) made a
backwards-incompatible change to accept this wrong belief of what
FORTRAN really is. Alas searching for it takes too long (the 3 search
options offered by
HTTPS://compilers.IECC.com
and the search option offered by
HTTPS://groups.Google.com/g/comp.compilers
are inconsistent and FTP.IECC.com is not still available).

Many years ago I downloaded a file by a student claiming that
centuries ago English peasants invented "gelded" because they do not
know "gelt". I failed to find it for this post, so instead I
downloaded files about children who perform overregularisation.

"Old English had
many more irregular verbs than Modern English[. . .]
[. . .]
[. . .] Most of the grammatical structure of English develops rapidly
in the third year of life (31). One conspicuous development is the
appearance of overregularizations like comed. Such errors [. . .]"
says
Steven Pinker, "Rules of Language", "Science", Volume 253, 530, 1991.

"However, children also face a problem: if they generalise the
patterns too far, they’ll say something ungrammatical. If you’ve ever
heard a young child talking, it’s likely you’ll have heard them say
things like We goed to the park or I sitted down. In these examples,
the child has ‘overgeneralised’ the regular –ed ending pattern for
making the past tense in English."
says
HTTPS://news.Liverpool.ac.UK/2014/06/30/becoming-an-expert-amy-bidgood-on-helping-children-learn-what-not-to-say/?

"This paper is concerned with the formation of past tense in child
English. Commissive errors within the realm of English past tense
marking are also known under
the terms overregularization errors (Kuczaj, 1977, 1978; Stemberger,
1982; Marcus
et al., 1992; Maratsos, 2000), doubling errors (Hattori, 2003) or
overtensing errors
(Stemberger, 2007). Overregularization occurs when an irregular verb’s
stem is suffixed with the regular past tense marker -ed. The stem can
either take the form that
also appears in present tense, as shown in (6a), or it can appear in
the portmanteau
past tense form, which is often a suppletive or ab-/umlauted stem, as
shown in (6b).
In the latter case, as in the causative domain, a feature, here past
tense, is marked
twice, once by the stem allomorph and once by -ed, thereby
constituting a case of
multiple exponence.
(6) Overregularization errors
a. I eated my breakfast.
b. I ated my breakfast."
says
Johannes Hein, Imke Driemel, Fabienne Martin, Yining Nie, Artemis
Alexiadou, "Errors of multiple exponence in child English: a study of
past tense formation", "Morphology", 2024.

A new rule is made by breaking an old rule. Breaking an old rule does
not make a new rule right.

Regards.

(S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)

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