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Internet connection question

Started byfelix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
First post2017-06-03 15:59 +1000
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  Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-03 15:59 +1000
    Re: Internet connection question Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-06-03 21:31 +1000
      Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-04 00:11 +1000
        Re: Internet connection question Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-06-04 07:51 +1000
    Re: Internet connection question "Blue Peeler" <woof@barque.org> - 2017-06-03 11:45 +0000
      Re: Internet connection question Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-06-04 19:30 +0800
        Re: Internet connection question "Blue Peeler" <woof@barque.org> - 2017-06-04 12:14 +0000
          Re: Internet connection question Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-06-04 23:17 +1000
            Re: Internet connection question "Blue Peeler" <woof@barque.org> - 2017-06-04 20:55 +0000
              Re: Internet connection question Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-06-05 13:23 +1000
            Re: Internet connection question Lindsay <ask.me.for.it@nunnya.business.com.au> - 2017-06-05 08:28 +1000
      Re: Internet connection question alvey <alvey@play.com> - 2017-06-07 08:48 +1000
    Re: Internet connection question "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 04:51 +1000
      Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-04 12:25 +1000
        Re: Internet connection question "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-05 14:03 +1000
          Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-05 14:57 +1000
            Re: Internet connection question FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-05 16:27 +1000
              Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-05 16:46 +1000
                Re: Internet connection question FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-05 19:09 +1000
                  Re: Internet connection question FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-05 19:11 +1000
                    Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-05 19:17 +1000
                      Re: Internet connection question Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-06-05 19:22 +1000
                        Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-05 22:06 +1000
                      Re: Internet connection question FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-06 18:17 +1000
            Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-05 22:34 +1000
              Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno Grumpy Tech <grumpytech07@gmail.com> - 2017-06-05 23:08 +1000
                Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno Grumpy Tech <grumpytech07@gmail.com> - 2017-06-05 23:10 +1000
                  Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-05 23:45 +1000
                Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-05 23:44 +1000
                  Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 05:00 +1000
                    Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-06 11:06 +1000
                      Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-06 11:28 +1000
                        Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 15:14 +1000
                        Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-06 16:23 +1000
                          Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 20:56 +1000
                      Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 11:33 +1000
                        Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-06 16:24 +1000
                          Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-06 23:06 +1000
                            Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 06:11 +1000
                              Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-07 09:45 +1000
                                Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 09:55 +1000
                                  Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-07 12:09 +1000
                                    Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-07 14:03 +1000
                                      Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-07 17:52 +1000
                                        Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-08 10:13 +1000
                                          Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-08 10:47 +1000
                                          Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-08 10:52 +1000
                                            Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-08 15:14 +1000
                                              Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-08 16:22 +1000
                                    Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 15:03 +1000
                          Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 06:12 +1000
                            Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-07 09:52 +1000
                              Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 14:03 +1000
                                Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-06-07 14:44 +1000
                                  Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 15:08 +1000
                                    Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-08 10:10 +1000
                                      Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-08 10:50 +1000
                                  Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-08 10:06 +1000
                                    Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-08 10:49 +1000
                                Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-08 10:04 +1000
                                  Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-08 10:47 +1000
                                    Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-08 14:58 +1000
                                      Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-08 16:20 +1000
              Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 04:59 +1000
              Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-06-06 15:12 +1000
                Re: Internet connection question - attn Xeno felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-07 10:03 +1000
            Re: Internet connection question "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 04:46 +1000
    Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-04 14:09 +1000
      Re: Internet connection question Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-06-04 15:20 +1000
        Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-04 15:53 +1000
          Re: Internet connection question Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-06-04 17:56 +1000
            Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-04 18:18 +1000
              Re: Internet connection question Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-06-04 20:20 +1000
                Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-05 00:24 +1000
              Re: Internet connection question "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-05 14:06 +1000
                Re: Internet connection question "Blue Peeler" <woof@barque.org> - 2017-06-05 07:52 +0000
                  Re: Internet connection question "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 04:49 +1000
      Re: Internet connection question "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-05 14:04 +1000
        Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-05 18:01 +1000
          Re: Internet connection question "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 04:50 +1000
    Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-29 15:24 +1000
      Re: Internet connection question not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-06-29 23:28 +0000
        Re: Internet connection question "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-30 11:09 +1000
          Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-30 11:33 +1000
            Re: Internet connection question "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-01 02:15 +1000
        Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-30 11:31 +1000
          Re: Internet connection question not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-07-01 02:28 +0000
            Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-07-01 18:29 +1000
              Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-07-01 19:28 +1000
                Re: Internet connection question "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-02 06:54 +1000
                  Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-07-02 12:26 +1000
                    Re: Internet connection question "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-02 13:17 +1000
                Re: Internet connection question not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-07-02 00:44 +0000
                  Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-07-02 12:37 +1000
                    Re: Internet connection question not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-07-02 23:18 +0000
                      Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-07-05 08:50 +1000
                        Re: Internet connection question not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-07-08 03:21 +0000
                          Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-07-08 15:55 +1000
                            Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-07-08 17:07 +1000
                              Re: Internet connection question not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-07-08 07:16 +0000
                                Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-07-08 21:11 +1000
      Re: Internet connection question "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-06-30 11:05 +1000
        Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-06-30 11:37 +1000
          Re: Internet connection question "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-07-01 02:18 +1000
            Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-07-01 19:29 +1000
      Re: Internet connection question "Blue Peeler" <woof@barque.org> - 2017-07-04 22:32 +0000
        Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-07-05 08:39 +1000
          Re: Internet connection question "Blue Peeler" <woof@barque.org> - 2017-07-05 01:15 +0000
            Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-07-05 16:56 +1000
              Re: Internet connection question "Blue Peeler" <woof@barque.org> - 2017-07-05 12:09 +0000
                Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-07-05 22:42 +1000
                  Re: Internet connection question "Blue Peeler" <woof@barque.org> - 2017-07-05 22:31 +0000
                    Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-07-06 13:22 +1000
                  Re: Internet connection question Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-07-07 09:35 +1000
                    Re: Internet connection question Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-07-07 10:00 +1000
                      Re: Internet connection question Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-07-07 13:50 +1000
                        Re: Internet connection question Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-07-07 14:22 +1000
                        Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-07-07 21:38 +1000
                      Re: Internet connection question Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-07-07 19:17 +1000
                        Re: Internet connection question Sqwerts <sqwerts@clumail.compost> - 2017-07-23 13:26 -0600
                          Re: Internet connection question dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2017-07-23 15:22 -0500
                            Re: Internet connection question Sqwerts <sqwerts@clumail.compost> - 2017-07-23 15:21 -0600
                    Re: Internet connection question "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-07-07 10:11 +1000
                      Re: Internet connection question Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-07-07 19:19 +1000
                        Re: Internet connection question Sqwerts <sqwerts@clumail.compost> - 2017-07-23 13:26 -0600
                      Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-07-07 21:39 +1000
                    Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-07-07 21:38 +1000
                      Re: Internet connection question Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-07-07 23:49 +1000
                        Re: Internet connection question Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-07-08 06:51 +1000
                          Re: Internet connection question felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-07-08 12:57 +1000
                            Re: Internet connection question "Blue Peeler" <woof@barque.org> - 2017-07-08 03:18 +0000
                            Re: Internet connection question Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-07-09 09:43 +1000
                              Re: Internet connection question Sqwerts <sqwerts@clumail.compost> - 2017-07-23 13:24 -0600
                                Re: Internet connection question dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2017-07-23 15:22 -0500
                      Re: Internet connection question Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-07-08 06:50 +1000
                        Re: Internet connection question Sqwerts <sqwerts@clumail.compost> - 2017-07-23 13:25 -0600
                    Re: Internet connection question Sqwerts <sqwerts@clumail.compost> - 2017-07-23 13:29 -0600
                      Re: Internet connection question dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> - 2017-07-23 15:22 -0500
            Re: Internet connection question FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-08-21 17:33 +1000
    Re: Internet connection question Lucifer Morningstar <not@for.mail> - 2017-07-15 00:11 +1000

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#60358

Fromfelix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
Date2017-06-29 15:24 +1000
Message-ID<erjh8sFe81jU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60140
On Saturday, 3 Jun 2017 3:59 PM, felix wrote:
>
> question for Computer nerd Kev (and others)..
>
> my 'smart tv' is apparently not so smart as it can't find my internet 
> via ethernet.
>
>
I rang my ISP abut this issue which was discussed here recently. I 
believe I mentioned during the discussion that the tv was 30 feet approx 
from the modem. well, I have measured/estimated the cable length and 
it's more like 80ft, and TPG said that is the cause of the problem, as 
the signal is being attenuated too much by the length of cable for the 
tv to be able to accept it



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#60363

Fromnot@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Date2017-06-29 23:28 +0000
Message-ID<oj42f0$1i2$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#60358
felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
> On Saturday, 3 Jun 2017 3:59 PM, felix wrote:
>>
>> question for Computer nerd Kev (and others)..
>>
>> my 'smart tv' is apparently not so smart as it can't find my internet 
>> via ethernet.
>>
>>
> I rang my ISP abut this issue which was discussed here recently. I 
> believe I mentioned during the discussion that the tv was 30 feet approx 
> from the modem. well, I have measured/estimated the cable length and 
> it's more like 80ft, and TPG said that is the cause of the problem, as 
> the signal is being attenuated too much by the length of cable for the 
> tv to be able to accept it

Sounds too short for that sort of problem, though it depends on the
cable used and speed.

Here are some figures:
https://kb.wisc.edu/ns/page.php?id=7829

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#60367

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-06-30 11:09 +1000
Message-ID<erlmltFtp2nU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60363

"Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message 
news:oj42f0$1i2$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>> On Saturday, 3 Jun 2017 3:59 PM, felix wrote:
>>>
>>> question for Computer nerd Kev (and others)..
>>>
>>> my 'smart tv' is apparently not so smart as it can't find my internet
>>> via ethernet.
>>>
>>>
>> I rang my ISP abut this issue which was discussed here recently. I
>> believe I mentioned during the discussion that the tv was 30 feet approx
>> from the modem. well, I have measured/estimated the cable length and
>> it's more like 80ft, and TPG said that is the cause of the problem, as
>> the signal is being attenuated too much by the length of cable for the
>> tv to be able to accept it

> Sounds too short for that sort of problem,

And it’s a digital signal, it isnt attenuated, stupids.

> though it depends on the cable used and speed.

Nope, not on that attenuated question.

> Here are some figures:
> https://kb.wisc.edu/ns/page.php?id=7829
 

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#60369

Fromfelix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
Date2017-06-30 11:33 +1000
Message-ID<erlo46Fu0otU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60367
On Friday, 30 Jun 2017 11:09 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:oj42f0$1i2$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 3 Jun 2017 3:59 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>
>>>> question for Computer nerd Kev (and others)..
>>>>
>>>> my 'smart tv' is apparently not so smart as it can't find my internet
>>>> via ethernet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I rang my ISP abut this issue which was discussed here recently. I
>>> believe I mentioned during the discussion that the tv was 30 feet 
>>> approx
>>> from the modem. well, I have measured/estimated the cable length and
>>> it's more like 80ft, and TPG said that is the cause of the problem, as
>>> the signal is being attenuated too much by the length of cable for the
>>> tv to be able to accept it
>
>> Sounds too short for that sort of problem,
>
> And it’s a digital signal, it isnt attenuated, stupids.
>
>> though it depends on the cable used and speed.
>
> Nope, not on that attenuated question.
>
>> Here are some figures:
>> https://kb.wisc.edu/ns/page.php?id=7829
>
>

so back to square 1 then. :( they did say if I bought a better modem I 
would only need to put in my username and password and it would work. 
that didn't work with the myrepublic modem tho.

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http://thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
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#60371

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-01 02:15 +1000
Message-ID<ernbphFau5jU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60369

"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message 
news:erlo46Fu0otU3@mid.individual.net...
> On Friday, 30 Jun 2017 11:09 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Computer Nerd Kev" <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote in message 
>> news:oj42f0$1i2$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, 3 Jun 2017 3:59 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> question for Computer nerd Kev (and others)..
>>>>>
>>>>> my 'smart tv' is apparently not so smart as it can't find my internet
>>>>> via ethernet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I rang my ISP abut this issue which was discussed here recently. I
>>>> believe I mentioned during the discussion that the tv was 30 feet 
>>>> approx
>>>> from the modem. well, I have measured/estimated the cable length and
>>>> it's more like 80ft, and TPG said that is the cause of the problem, as
>>>> the signal is being attenuated too much by the length of cable for the
>>>> tv to be able to accept it
>>
>>> Sounds too short for that sort of problem,
>>
>> And it’s a digital signal, it isnt attenuated, stupids.
>>
>>> though it depends on the cable used and speed.
>>
>> Nope, not on that attenuated question.
>>
>>> Here are some figures:
>>> https://kb.wisc.edu/ns/page.php?id=7829
>>
>>
>
> so back to square 1 then. :( they did say if I bought a better modem I 
> would only need to put in my username and password and it would work. that 
> didn't work with the myrepublic modem tho.

You also need to set the connection mode correctly. PPoE etc. 

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#60368

Fromfelix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
Date2017-06-30 11:31 +1000
Message-ID<erlo03Fu0otU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60363
On Friday, 30 Jun 2017 9:28 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>> On Saturday, 3 Jun 2017 3:59 PM, felix wrote:
>>> question for Computer nerd Kev (and others)..
>>>
>>> my 'smart tv' is apparently not so smart as it can't find my internet
>>> via ethernet.
>>>
>>>
>> I rang my ISP abut this issue which was discussed here recently. I
>> believe I mentioned during the discussion that the tv was 30 feet approx
>> from the modem. well, I have measured/estimated the cable length and
>> it's more like 80ft, and TPG said that is the cause of the problem, as
>> the signal is being attenuated too much by the length of cable for the
>> tv to be able to accept it
> Sounds too short for that sort of problem,

yeah I didn't think it would be an issue either

>   though it depends on the
> cable used and speed.
>
> Here are some figures:
> https://kb.wisc.edu/ns/page.php?id=7829
>

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in history- http://tinyurl.com/pv9r33k
http://thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
http://www.siotw.org

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#60375

Fromnot@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Date2017-07-01 02:28 +0000
Message-ID<oj71c1$11os$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#60368
felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
> On Friday, 30 Jun 2017 9:28 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 3 Jun 2017 3:59 PM, felix wrote:
>>>> question for Computer nerd Kev (and others)..
>>>>
>>>> my 'smart tv' is apparently not so smart as it can't find my internet
>>>> via ethernet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I rang my ISP abut this issue which was discussed here recently. I
>>> believe I mentioned during the discussion that the tv was 30 feet approx
>>> from the modem. well, I have measured/estimated the cable length and
>>> it's more like 80ft, and TPG said that is the cause of the problem, as
>>> the signal is being attenuated too much by the length of cable for the
>>> tv to be able to accept it
>> Sounds too short for that sort of problem,
> 
> yeah I didn't think it would be an issue either

What's your problem anyway? A while ago you posted:
"I've just checked for a faulty cable and eliminated that possibility.
 then I bypassed the auto switch, and the tv connected. then I
 switched the cable to the tv to another port on the auto switch and
 it connected."

So I figured it was working for you.

Are you still connecting directly to the Ethernet cable, or have you
gone back to the Edimax repeater you mentioned you were using
(presumably on the end of the same cable) to connect previously.

If something's buggy with the DHCP in the TV which is causing it to
disconnect (I noticed something in the thread about you having
intermittent connection issues, but it's all so mixed up that I've
given up making complete sense of it), try connecting a laptop to
whatever network connection you want the TV to use (cable or wifi),
look at the network settings it is assigned automatically and copy
those in the Static IP settings on the TV before disconnecting the
laptop and connecting up the TV. Unless you've gone and assigned a
static IP to the MAC address of your laptop in the modem's
configuration, it should work.

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#60376

Fromfelix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
Date2017-07-01 18:29 +1000
Message-ID<erp4r8Fn425U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60375
On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 12:28 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>> On Friday, 30 Jun 2017 9:28 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, 3 Jun 2017 3:59 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>> question for Computer nerd Kev (and others)..
>>>>>
>>>>> my 'smart tv' is apparently not so smart as it can't find my internet
>>>>> via ethernet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I rang my ISP abut this issue which was discussed here recently. I
>>>> believe I mentioned during the discussion that the tv was 30 feet approx
>>>> from the modem. well, I have measured/estimated the cable length and
>>>> it's more like 80ft, and TPG said that is the cause of the problem, as
>>>> the signal is being attenuated too much by the length of cable for the
>>>> tv to be able to accept it
>>> Sounds too short for that sort of problem,
>> yeah I didn't think it would be an issue either
> What's your problem anyway? A while ago you posted:
> "I've just checked for a faulty cable and eliminated that possibility.
>   then I bypassed the auto switch, and the tv connected. then I
>   switched the cable to the tv to another port on the auto switch and
>   it connected."

I'm not sure what that was about now

>
> So I figured it was working for you.
>
> Are you still connecting directly to the Ethernet cable, or have you
> gone back to the Edimax repeater you mentioned you were using

no the cable is not connected. I'm connecting via wifi from the Edimax 
repeater.

this is the setup: the modem is in the study/office and a cable runs to 
a LAN wall socket, which connects via about 70 ft of cable thru the roof 
area to another wall socket in the living room. a cable from that socket 
connects to an auto switch which distributes to various items in the 
room, six in all, one of which is the tv, and another the edimax repeater

> (presumably on the end of the same cable) to connect previously.

(as above)

>
> If something's buggy with the DHCP in the TV which is causing it to
> disconnect (I noticed something in the thread about you having
> intermittent connection issues, but it's all so mixed up that I've
> given up making complete sense of it),

a bit like my mind really.. :(

>   try connecting a laptop to
> whatever network connection you want the TV to use (cable or wifi),
> look at the network settings it is assigned automatically and copy
> those in the Static IP settings on the TV before disconnecting the
> laptop and connecting up the TV. Unless you've gone and assigned a
> static IP to the MAC address of your laptop in the modem's
> configuration, it should work.

great! I'll try that now and report back..


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http://thereligionofpeace.com
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#60377

Fromfelix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
Date2017-07-01 19:28 +1000
Message-ID<erp89hFntelU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60376
On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 6:29 PM, felix wrote:
> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 12:28 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Friday, 30 Jun 2017 9:28 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, 3 Jun 2017 3:59 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>> question for Computer nerd Kev (and others)..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my 'smart tv' is apparently not so smart as it can't find my 
>>>>>> internet
>>>>>> via ethernet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I rang my ISP abut this issue which was discussed here recently. I
>>>>> believe I mentioned during the discussion that the tv was 30 feet 
>>>>> approx
>>>>> from the modem. well, I have measured/estimated the cable length and
>>>>> it's more like 80ft, and TPG said that is the cause of the 
>>>>> problem, as
>>>>> the signal is being attenuated too much by the length of cable for 
>>>>> the
>>>>> tv to be able to accept it
>>>> Sounds too short for that sort of problem,
>>> yeah I didn't think it would be an issue either
>> What's your problem anyway? A while ago you posted:
>> "I've just checked for a faulty cable and eliminated that possibility.
>>   then I bypassed the auto switch, and the tv connected. then I
>>   switched the cable to the tv to another port on the auto switch and
>>   it connected."
>
> I'm not sure what that was about now
>
>>
>> So I figured it was working for you.
>>
>> Are you still connecting directly to the Ethernet cable, or have you
>> gone back to the Edimax repeater you mentioned you were using
>
> no the cable is not connected. I'm connecting via wifi from the Edimax 
> repeater.
>
> this is the setup: the modem is in the study/office and a cable runs 
> to a LAN wall socket, which connects via about 70 ft of cable thru the 
> roof area to another wall socket in the living room. a cable from that 
> socket connects to an auto switch which distributes to various items 
> in the room, six in all, one of which is the tv, and another the 
> edimax repeater
>
>> (presumably on the end of the same cable) to connect previously.
>
> (as above)
>
>>
>> If something's buggy with the DHCP in the TV which is causing it to
>> disconnect 

yes, the tv will not stay connected via lan. it momentarily finds the 
connection, then disconnects, and keeps repeatedly doing so. so I need 
to leave the lan cable disconnected to prevent the messages 
connected/disconnected constantly popping up on the screen

>> (I noticed something in the thread about you having
>> intermittent connection issues, but it's all so mixed up that I've
>> given up making complete sense of it),
>
> a bit like my mind really.. :(
>
>>   try connecting a laptop to
>> whatever network connection you want the TV to use (cable or wifi),
>> look at the network settings it is assigned automatically and copy
>> those in the Static IP settings on the TV before disconnecting the
>> laptop and connecting up the TV. Unless you've gone and assigned a
>> static IP to the MAC address of your laptop in the modem's
>> configuration, it should work.
>
> great! I'll try that now and report back..
>
>


unfortunately that didn't work because I discovered there's no manual 
mode for the LAN connection. the tv connects automatically, and although 
it's possible to edit the connection data, since in this case the tv 
won't connect, no editing of the connection is possible. however, I am 
happy to say I have made significant progress! as the saying goes, if 
mohammed wont go to the mountain, the mountain must go to mohammed! so I 
took the router to the tv room and ran a cable back to the NBN box (yes, 
a very long cable!) and then connected a short cable from the router to 
the tv, and the tv connects via lan to the internet, no problem. so it 
seems that TPG were correct and the length of cable is the issue, which 
prompts me to ask, is there such as thing as a LAN signal booster? 
because it seems that the problem is simply a low level of signal 
reaching the tv from the router.


-- 
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in history- http://tinyurl.com/pv9r33k
http://thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
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#60381

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-02 06:54 +1000
Message-ID<erqggtF2k6jU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60377

"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message 
news:erp89hFntelU1@mid.individual.net...
> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 6:29 PM, felix wrote:
>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 12:28 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Friday, 30 Jun 2017 9:28 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, 3 Jun 2017 3:59 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>> question for Computer nerd Kev (and others)..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my 'smart tv' is apparently not so smart as it can't find my 
>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>> via ethernet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I rang my ISP abut this issue which was discussed here recently. I
>>>>>> believe I mentioned during the discussion that the tv was 30 feet 
>>>>>> approx
>>>>>> from the modem. well, I have measured/estimated the cable length and
>>>>>> it's more like 80ft, and TPG said that is the cause of the problem, 
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> the signal is being attenuated too much by the length of cable for 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> tv to be able to accept it
>>>>> Sounds too short for that sort of problem,
>>>> yeah I didn't think it would be an issue either
>>> What's your problem anyway? A while ago you posted:
>>> "I've just checked for a faulty cable and eliminated that possibility.
>>>   then I bypassed the auto switch, and the tv connected. then I
>>>   switched the cable to the tv to another port on the auto switch and
>>>   it connected."
>>
>> I'm not sure what that was about now
>>
>>>
>>> So I figured it was working for you.
>>>
>>> Are you still connecting directly to the Ethernet cable, or have you
>>> gone back to the Edimax repeater you mentioned you were using
>>
>> no the cable is not connected. I'm connecting via wifi from the Edimax 
>> repeater.
>>
>> this is the setup: the modem is in the study/office and a cable runs to a 
>> LAN wall socket, which connects via about 70 ft of cable thru the roof 
>> area to another wall socket in the living room. a cable from that socket 
>> connects to an auto switch which distributes to various items in the 
>> room, six in all, one of which is the tv, and another the edimax repeater
>>
>>> (presumably on the end of the same cable) to connect previously.
>>
>> (as above)
>>
>>>
>>> If something's buggy with the DHCP in the TV which is causing it to
>>> disconnect
>
> yes, the tv will not stay connected via lan. it momentarily finds the 
> connection, then disconnects, and keeps repeatedly doing so. so I need to 
> leave the lan cable disconnected to prevent the messages 
> connected/disconnected constantly popping up on the screen
>
>>> (I noticed something in the thread about you having
>>> intermittent connection issues, but it's all so mixed up that I've
>>> given up making complete sense of it),
>>
>> a bit like my mind really.. :(
>>
>>>   try connecting a laptop to
>>> whatever network connection you want the TV to use (cable or wifi),
>>> look at the network settings it is assigned automatically and copy
>>> those in the Static IP settings on the TV before disconnecting the
>>> laptop and connecting up the TV. Unless you've gone and assigned a
>>> static IP to the MAC address of your laptop in the modem's
>>> configuration, it should work.
>>
>> great! I'll try that now and report back..
>>
>>
>
>
> unfortunately that didn't work because I discovered there's no manual mode 
> for the LAN connection. the tv connects automatically, and although it's 
> possible to edit the connection data, since in this case the tv won't 
> connect, no editing of the connection is possible. however, I am happy to 
> say I have made significant progress! as the saying goes, if mohammed wont 
> go to the mountain, the mountain must go to mohammed! so I took the router 
> to the tv room and ran a cable back to the NBN box (yes, a very long 
> cable!) and then connected a short cable from the router to the tv, and 
> the tv connects via lan to the internet, no problem. so it seems that TPG 
> were correct and the length of cable is the issue,

Nope, its the repeater that’s the problem.

> which prompts me to ask, is there such as thing as a LAN signal booster?

You don’t boost digital signals and your distance is well within what is 
allowed with Cat5.

> because it seems that the problem is simply a low level of signal reaching 
> the tv from the router.

Nope.
 

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#60387

Fromfelix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
Date2017-07-02 12:26 +1000
Message-ID<err3ulF6kqcU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60381
On Sunday, 2 Jul 2017 6:54 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
> "felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:erp89hFntelU1@mid.individual.net...
>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 6:29 PM, felix wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 12:28 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, 30 Jun 2017 9:28 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, 3 Jun 2017 3:59 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>> question for Computer nerd Kev (and others)..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> my 'smart tv' is apparently not so smart as it can't find my 
>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>> via ethernet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I rang my ISP abut this issue which was discussed here recently. I
>>>>>>> believe I mentioned during the discussion that the tv was 30 
>>>>>>> feet approx
>>>>>>> from the modem. well, I have measured/estimated the cable length 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> it's more like 80ft, and TPG said that is the cause of the 
>>>>>>> problem, as
>>>>>>> the signal is being attenuated too much by the length of cable 
>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>> tv to be able to accept it
>>>>>> Sounds too short for that sort of problem,
>>>>> yeah I didn't think it would be an issue either
>>>> What's your problem anyway? A while ago you posted:
>>>> "I've just checked for a faulty cable and eliminated that possibility.
>>>>   then I bypassed the auto switch, and the tv connected. then I
>>>>   switched the cable to the tv to another port on the auto switch and
>>>>   it connected."
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what that was about now
>>>
>>>>
>>>> So I figured it was working for you.
>>>>
>>>> Are you still connecting directly to the Ethernet cable, or have you
>>>> gone back to the Edimax repeater you mentioned you were using
>>>
>>> no the cable is not connected. I'm connecting via wifi from the 
>>> Edimax repeater.
>>>
>>> this is the setup: the modem is in the study/office and a cable runs 
>>> to a LAN wall socket, which connects via about 70 ft of cable thru 
>>> the roof area to another wall socket in the living room. a cable 
>>> from that socket connects to an auto switch which distributes to 
>>> various items in the room, six in all, one of which is the tv, and 
>>> another the edimax repeater
>>>
>>>> (presumably on the end of the same cable) to connect previously.
>>>
>>> (as above)
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If something's buggy with the DHCP in the TV which is causing it to
>>>> disconnect
>>
>> yes, the tv will not stay connected via lan. it momentarily finds the 
>> connection, then disconnects, and keeps repeatedly doing so. so I 
>> need to leave the lan cable disconnected to prevent the messages 
>> connected/disconnected constantly popping up on the screen
>>
>>>> (I noticed something in the thread about you having
>>>> intermittent connection issues, but it's all so mixed up that I've
>>>> given up making complete sense of it),
>>>
>>> a bit like my mind really.. :(
>>>
>>>>   try connecting a laptop to
>>>> whatever network connection you want the TV to use (cable or wifi),
>>>> look at the network settings it is assigned automatically and copy
>>>> those in the Static IP settings on the TV before disconnecting the
>>>> laptop and connecting up the TV. Unless you've gone and assigned a
>>>> static IP to the MAC address of your laptop in the modem's
>>>> configuration, it should work.
>>>
>>> great! I'll try that now and report back..
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> unfortunately that didn't work because I discovered there's no manual 
>> mode for the LAN connection. the tv connects automatically, and 
>> although it's possible to edit the connection data, since in this 
>> case the tv won't connect, no editing of the connection is possible. 
>> however, I am happy to say I have made significant progress! as the 
>> saying goes, if mohammed wont go to the mountain, the mountain must 
>> go to mohammed! so I took the router to the tv room and ran a cable 
>> back to the NBN box (yes, a very long cable!) and then connected a 
>> short cable from the router to the tv, and the tv connects via lan to 
>> the internet, no problem. so it seems that TPG were correct and the 
>> length of cable is the issue,
>
> Nope, its the repeater that’s the problem.

the repeater is not the problem because I'm not talking about the wifi 
connection. the wifi connection is fine

>
>> which prompts me to ask, is there such as thing as a LAN signal booster?
>
> You don’t boost digital signals and your distance is well within what 
> is allowed with Cat5.
>
>> because it seems that the problem is simply a low level of signal 
>> reaching the tv from the router.
>
> Nope.
>
>

-- 
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in history- http://tinyurl.com/pv9r33k
http://thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
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#60390

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2017-07-02 13:17 +1000
Message-ID<err6v1F77qkU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60387

"felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message 
news:err3ulF6kqcU1@mid.individual.net...
> On Sunday, 2 Jul 2017 6:54 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "felix" <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in message 
>> news:erp89hFntelU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 6:29 PM, felix wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 12:28 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On Friday, 30 Jun 2017 9:28 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 3 Jun 2017 3:59 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>> question for Computer nerd Kev (and others)..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> my 'smart tv' is apparently not so smart as it can't find my 
>>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>>> via ethernet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I rang my ISP abut this issue which was discussed here recently. I
>>>>>>>> believe I mentioned during the discussion that the tv was 30 feet 
>>>>>>>> approx
>>>>>>>> from the modem. well, I have measured/estimated the cable length 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> it's more like 80ft, and TPG said that is the cause of the problem, 
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> the signal is being attenuated too much by the length of cable for 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> tv to be able to accept it
>>>>>>> Sounds too short for that sort of problem,
>>>>>> yeah I didn't think it would be an issue either
>>>>> What's your problem anyway? A while ago you posted:
>>>>> "I've just checked for a faulty cable and eliminated that possibility.
>>>>>   then I bypassed the auto switch, and the tv connected. then I
>>>>>   switched the cable to the tv to another port on the auto switch and
>>>>>   it connected."
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what that was about now
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So I figured it was working for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you still connecting directly to the Ethernet cable, or have you
>>>>> gone back to the Edimax repeater you mentioned you were using
>>>>
>>>> no the cable is not connected. I'm connecting via wifi from the Edimax 
>>>> repeater.
>>>>
>>>> this is the setup: the modem is in the study/office and a cable runs to 
>>>> a LAN wall socket, which connects via about 70 ft of cable thru the 
>>>> roof area to another wall socket in the living room. a cable from that 
>>>> socket connects to an auto switch which distributes to various items in 
>>>> the room, six in all, one of which is the tv, and another the edimax 
>>>> repeater
>>>>
>>>>> (presumably on the end of the same cable) to connect previously.
>>>>
>>>> (as above)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If something's buggy with the DHCP in the TV which is causing it to
>>>>> disconnect
>>>
>>> yes, the tv will not stay connected via lan. it momentarily finds the 
>>> connection, then disconnects, and keeps repeatedly doing so. so I need 
>>> to leave the lan cable disconnected to prevent the messages 
>>> connected/disconnected constantly popping up on the screen
>>>
>>>>> (I noticed something in the thread about you having
>>>>> intermittent connection issues, but it's all so mixed up that I've
>>>>> given up making complete sense of it),
>>>>
>>>> a bit like my mind really.. :(
>>>>
>>>>>   try connecting a laptop to
>>>>> whatever network connection you want the TV to use (cable or wifi),
>>>>> look at the network settings it is assigned automatically and copy
>>>>> those in the Static IP settings on the TV before disconnecting the
>>>>> laptop and connecting up the TV. Unless you've gone and assigned a
>>>>> static IP to the MAC address of your laptop in the modem's
>>>>> configuration, it should work.
>>>>
>>>> great! I'll try that now and report back..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> unfortunately that didn't work because I discovered there's no manual 
>>> mode for the LAN connection. the tv connects automatically, and although 
>>> it's possible to edit the connection data, since in this case the tv 
>>> won't connect, no editing of the connection is possible. however, I am 
>>> happy to say I have made significant progress! as the saying goes, if 
>>> mohammed wont go to the mountain, the mountain must go to mohammed! so I 
>>> took the router to the tv room and ran a cable back to the NBN box (yes, 
>>> a very long cable!) and then connected a short cable from the router to 
>>> the tv, and the tv connects via lan to the internet, no problem. so it 
>>> seems that TPG were correct and the length of cable is the issue,
>>
>> Nope, its the repeater that’s the problem.

> the repeater is not the problem

You don’t know that yet.

> because I'm not talking about the wifi connection. the wifi connection is 
> fine

But it might be what is confusing the TV getting
a reliable net connection over the physical cable.

It certainly wont be the length of the physical cable.

I'd get the MR modem working because it might
just be some quirk of the TV working with that.

>>> which prompts me to ask, is there such as thing as a LAN signal booster?
>>
>> You don’t boost digital signals and your distance is well within what is 
>> allowed with Cat5.
>>
>>> because it seems that the problem is simply a low level of signal 
>>> reaching the tv from the router.
>>
>> Nope.
 

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#60382

Fromnot@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Date2017-07-02 00:44 +0000
Message-ID<oj9fld$u7m$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#60377
felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 6:29 PM, felix wrote:
>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 12:28 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> try connecting a laptop to
>>> whatever network connection you want the TV to use (cable or wifi),
>>> look at the network settings it is assigned automatically and copy
>>> those in the Static IP settings on the TV before disconnecting the
>>> laptop and connecting up the TV. Unless you've gone and assigned a
>>> static IP to the MAC address of your laptop in the modem's
>>> configuration, it should work.
>>
>> great! I'll try that now and report back..
> 
> unfortunately that didn't work because I discovered there's no manual 
> mode for the LAN connection. the tv connects automatically, and although 
> it's possible to edit the connection data, since in this case the tv 
> won't connect, no editing of the connection is possible. however, I am 
> happy to say I have made significant progress! as the saying goes, if 
> mohammed wont go to the mountain, the mountain must go to mohammed! so I 
> took the router to the tv room and ran a cable back to the NBN box (yes, 
> a very long cable!) and then connected a short cable from the router to 
> the tv, and the tv connects via lan to the internet, no problem. so it 
> seems that TPG were correct and the length of cable is the issue,

But you still have a long cable going from the modem to the router,
and presumably it was working with your other devices connected
to the router before anyway.

However if you had the Edimax WiFi device running at the same
time as you were trying to connect the TV directly with the
cable, perhaps the TV was still trying to connect on WiFi
and falling back to the cable connection each time that failed,
causing the connected-disconnected cycle. By disconnecting the
WiFi access point when you moved the router over to the TV,
you eliminated this problem.

> which
> prompts me to ask, is there such as thing as a LAN signal booster? 
> because it seems that the problem is simply a low level of signal 
> reaching the tv from the router.

So you think the 70' cable from the modem is OK, but the cable that
runs from the router in the lounge room to the TV in the same room
is too long. Unless you have a lounge room over 70' long, that doesn't
make much sense.

Anyway, the length limitation is due to timing issues rather than
signal losses over the cable length, so a "booster" wouldn't work.
If you actually had a length problem, the solution would be to move
to fiber optic cabling, but you don't have that problem - the length
you're talking about should work easily with any normal copper
Ethernet cable.

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#60388

Fromfelix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
Date2017-07-02 12:37 +1000
Message-ID<err4kjF6po7U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60382
On Sunday, 2 Jul 2017 10:44 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 6:29 PM, felix wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 12:28 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>> try connecting a laptop to
>>>> whatever network connection you want the TV to use (cable or wifi),
>>>> look at the network settings it is assigned automatically and copy
>>>> those in the Static IP settings on the TV before disconnecting the
>>>> laptop and connecting up the TV. Unless you've gone and assigned a
>>>> static IP to the MAC address of your laptop in the modem's
>>>> configuration, it should work.
>>> great! I'll try that now and report back..
>> unfortunately that didn't work because I discovered there's no manual
>> mode for the LAN connection. the tv connects automatically, and although
>> it's possible to edit the connection data, since in this case the tv
>> won't connect, no editing of the connection is possible. however, I am
>> happy to say I have made significant progress! as the saying goes, if
>> mohammed wont go to the mountain, the mountain must go to mohammed! so I
>> took the router to the tv room and ran a cable back to the NBN box (yes,
>> a very long cable!) and then connected a short cable from the router to
>> the tv, and the tv connects via lan to the internet, no problem. so it
>> seems that TPG were correct and the length of cable is the issue,
> But you still have a long cable going from the modem to the router,
> and presumably it was working with your other devices connected
> to the router before anyway.
>
> However if you had the Edimax WiFi device running at the same
> time as you were trying to connect the TV directly with the
> cable, perhaps the TV was still trying to connect on WiFi
> and falling back to the cable connection each time that failed,
> causing the connected-disconnected cycle. By disconnecting the
> WiFi access point when you moved the router over to the TV,
> you eliminated this problem.

I had disabled the wifi connection before trying to connect via 
ethernet. you can only use one or the other, and you have to tell the tv 
which one to connect to

>
>> which
>> prompts me to ask, is there such as thing as a LAN signal booster?
>> because it seems that the problem is simply a low level of signal
>> reaching the tv from the router.
> So you think the 70' cable from the modem is OK, but the cable that
> runs from the router in the lounge room to the TV in the same room
> is too long. Unless you have a lounge room over 70' long, that doesn't
> make much sense.

  the router is in the study, I just moved it to the lounge room so I 
could run a short cable to the tv, and the tv connected.

>
> Anyway, the length limitation is due to timing issues rather than
> signal losses over the cable length, so a "booster" wouldn't work.
> If you actually had a length problem, the solution would be to move
> to fiber optic cabling, but you don't have that problem - the length
> you're talking about should work easily with any normal copper
> Ethernet cable.
>

well if there's no solution, I guess I'll just have to stick with wifi


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#60393

Fromnot@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Date2017-07-02 23:18 +0000
Message-ID<ojbuvf$9or$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#60388
felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
> On Sunday, 2 Jul 2017 10:44 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 6:29 PM, felix wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 12:28 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>> try connecting a laptop to
>>>>> whatever network connection you want the TV to use (cable or wifi),
>>>>> look at the network settings it is assigned automatically and copy
>>>>> those in the Static IP settings on the TV before disconnecting the
>>>>> laptop and connecting up the TV. Unless you've gone and assigned a
>>>>> static IP to the MAC address of your laptop in the modem's
>>>>> configuration, it should work.
>>>> great! I'll try that now and report back..
>>> unfortunately that didn't work because I discovered there's no manual
>>> mode for the LAN connection. the tv connects automatically, and although
>>> it's possible to edit the connection data, since in this case the tv
>>> won't connect, no editing of the connection is possible. however, I am
>>> happy to say I have made significant progress! as the saying goes, if
>>> mohammed wont go to the mountain, the mountain must go to mohammed! so I
>>> took the router to the tv room and ran a cable back to the NBN box (yes,
>>> a very long cable!) and then connected a short cable from the router to
>>> the tv, and the tv connects via lan to the internet, no problem. so it
>>> seems that TPG were correct and the length of cable is the issue,
>> But you still have a long cable going from the modem to the router,
>> and presumably it was working with your other devices connected
>> to the router before anyway.
>>
>> However if you had the Edimax WiFi device running at the same
>> time as you were trying to connect the TV directly with the
>> cable, perhaps the TV was still trying to connect on WiFi
>> and falling back to the cable connection each time that failed,
>> causing the connected-disconnected cycle. By disconnecting the
>> WiFi access point when you moved the router over to the TV,
>> you eliminated this problem.
> 
> I had disabled the wifi connection before trying to connect via 
> ethernet. you can only use one or the other, and you have to tell the tv 
> which one to connect to

Did you disable the Edimax device as well, just to be sure?

>>> which
>>> prompts me to ask, is there such as thing as a LAN signal booster?
>>> because it seems that the problem is simply a low level of signal
>>> reaching the tv from the router.
>> So you think the 70' cable from the modem is OK, but the cable that
>> runs from the router in the lounge room to the TV in the same room
>> is too long. Unless you have a lounge room over 70' long, that doesn't
>> make much sense.
> 
>  the router is in the study, I just moved it to the lounge room so I 
> could run a short cable to the tv, and the tv connected.

Have you started calling the modem the "router"? I thought you meant
the "auto-switch" that you said distributed the network to the six
devices in your lounge room.

>> Anyway, the length limitation is due to timing issues rather than
>> signal losses over the cable length, so a "booster" wouldn't work.
>> If you actually had a length problem, the solution would be to move
>> to fiber optic cabling, but you don't have that problem - the length
>> you're talking about should work easily with any normal copper
>> Ethernet cable.
>>
> 
> well if there's no solution, I guess I'll just have to stick with wifi

There's clearly a solution. What about the four other devices in your
lounge room besides the TV and the Edimax WiFi access point (assuming
that doesn't work with anything else either), are they working?

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#60402

Fromfelix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
Date2017-07-05 08:50 +1000
Message-ID<es2kdsFsvkoU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60393
On Monday, 3 Jul 2017 9:18 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>> On Sunday, 2 Jul 2017 10:44 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 6:29 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 12:28 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>>> try connecting a laptop to
>>>>>> whatever network connection you want the TV to use (cable or wifi),
>>>>>> look at the network settings it is assigned automatically and copy
>>>>>> those in the Static IP settings on the TV before disconnecting the
>>>>>> laptop and connecting up the TV. Unless you've gone and assigned a
>>>>>> static IP to the MAC address of your laptop in the modem's
>>>>>> configuration, it should work.
>>>>> great! I'll try that now and report back..
>>>> unfortunately that didn't work because I discovered there's no manual
>>>> mode for the LAN connection. the tv connects automatically, and although
>>>> it's possible to edit the connection data, since in this case the tv
>>>> won't connect, no editing of the connection is possible. however, I am
>>>> happy to say I have made significant progress! as the saying goes, if
>>>> mohammed wont go to the mountain, the mountain must go to mohammed! so I
>>>> took the router to the tv room and ran a cable back to the NBN box (yes,
>>>> a very long cable!) and then connected a short cable from the router to
>>>> the tv, and the tv connects via lan to the internet, no problem. so it
>>>> seems that TPG were correct and the length of cable is the issue,
>>> But you still have a long cable going from the modem to the router,
>>> and presumably it was working with your other devices connected
>>> to the router before anyway.
>>>
>>> However if you had the Edimax WiFi device running at the same
>>> time as you were trying to connect the TV directly with the
>>> cable, perhaps the TV was still trying to connect on WiFi
>>> and falling back to the cable connection each time that failed,
>>> causing the connected-disconnected cycle. By disconnecting the
>>> WiFi access point when you moved the router over to the TV,
>>> you eliminated this problem.
>> I had disabled the wifi connection before trying to connect via
>> ethernet. you can only use one or the other, and you have to tell the tv
>> which one to connect to
> Did you disable the Edimax device as well, just to be sure?

why would that be necessary? the tv is not trying to connect to it, and 
I have to tell it which connection to use, lan or wifi

>
>>>> which
>>>> prompts me to ask, is there such as thing as a LAN signal booster?
>>>> because it seems that the problem is simply a low level of signal
>>>> reaching the tv from the router.
>>> So you think the 70' cable from the modem is OK, but the cable that
>>> runs from the router in the lounge room to the TV in the same room
>>> is too long. Unless you have a lounge room over 70' long, that doesn't
>>> make much sense.
>>   the router is in the study, I just moved it to the lounge room so I
>> could run a short cable to the tv, and the tv connected.
> Have you started calling the modem the "router"?

yes because Rod was calling the NBN box the modem, so I was wanting to 
avoid confusion

> I thought you meant
> the "auto-switch" that you said distributed the network to the six
> devices in your lounge room.

ok. NBN box is in the study, as is the TPG modem/router. TV is in the 
lounge room. cable goes from TPG/MR to an ethernet wall socket in the 
study. there's an ethernet outlet from that in the lounge room. cable 
connects from this to a distribution auto switch. cables from the switch 
connect the TV and the Edimax wifi sender and other equipment

>
>>> Anyway, the length limitation is due to timing issues rather than
>>> signal losses over the cable length, so a "booster" wouldn't work.
>>> If you actually had a length problem, the solution would be to move
>>> to fiber optic cabling, but you don't have that problem - the length
>>> you're talking about should work easily with any normal copper
>>> Ethernet cable.
>>>
>> well if there's no solution, I guess I'll just have to stick with wifi
> There's clearly a solution. What about the four other devices in your
> lounge room besides the TV and the Edimax WiFi access point (assuming
> that doesn't work with anything else either), are they working?

yes everything else works. only the tv does not connect via ethernet, 
but connects via wifi no problem


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#60434

Fromnot@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Date2017-07-08 03:21 +0000
Message-ID<ojpj43$hl3$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#60402
felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
> On Monday, 3 Jul 2017 9:18 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 2 Jul 2017 10:44 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 6:29 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 12:28 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>>>> try connecting a laptop to
>>>>>>> whatever network connection you want the TV to use (cable or wifi),
>>>>>>> look at the network settings it is assigned automatically and copy
>>>>>>> those in the Static IP settings on the TV before disconnecting the
>>>>>>> laptop and connecting up the TV. Unless you've gone and assigned a
>>>>>>> static IP to the MAC address of your laptop in the modem's
>>>>>>> configuration, it should work.
>>>>>> great! I'll try that now and report back..
>>>>> unfortunately that didn't work because I discovered there's no manual
>>>>> mode for the LAN connection. the tv connects automatically, and although
>>>>> it's possible to edit the connection data, since in this case the tv
>>>>> won't connect, no editing of the connection is possible. however, I am
>>>>> happy to say I have made significant progress! as the saying goes, if
>>>>> mohammed wont go to the mountain, the mountain must go to mohammed! so I
>>>>> took the router to the tv room and ran a cable back to the NBN box (yes,
>>>>> a very long cable!) and then connected a short cable from the router to
>>>>> the tv, and the tv connects via lan to the internet, no problem. so it
>>>>> seems that TPG were correct and the length of cable is the issue,
>>>> But you still have a long cable going from the modem to the router,
>>>> and presumably it was working with your other devices connected
>>>> to the router before anyway.
>>>>
>>>> However if you had the Edimax WiFi device running at the same
>>>> time as you were trying to connect the TV directly with the
>>>> cable, perhaps the TV was still trying to connect on WiFi
>>>> and falling back to the cable connection each time that failed,
>>>> causing the connected-disconnected cycle. By disconnecting the
>>>> WiFi access point when you moved the router over to the TV,
>>>> you eliminated this problem.
>>> I had disabled the wifi connection before trying to connect via
>>> ethernet. you can only use one or the other, and you have to tell the tv
>>> which one to connect to
>> Did you disable the Edimax device as well, just to be sure?
> 
> why would that be necessary? the tv is not trying to connect to it, and 
> I have to tell it which connection to use, lan or wifi

Just in case the TV is actually trying to connect with the WiFi access
point that you've configured (although disabled) and disabling the wired
connection when it does so, then changing it's mind and going back to the
wired conenction again. It would be a software bug in the TV, but it's
the sort of thing I've seen before in poorly developed network software.
If it were the problem, a firmware update may have already been released
to fix it.

>>>>> which
>>>>> prompts me to ask, is there such as thing as a LAN signal booster?
>>>>> because it seems that the problem is simply a low level of signal
>>>>> reaching the tv from the router.
>>>> So you think the 70' cable from the modem is OK, but the cable that
>>>> runs from the router in the lounge room to the TV in the same room
>>>> is too long. Unless you have a lounge room over 70' long, that doesn't
>>>> make much sense.
>>>   the router is in the study, I just moved it to the lounge room so I
>>> could run a short cable to the tv, and the tv connected.
>> Have you started calling the modem the "router"?
> 
> yes because Rod was calling the NBN box the modem, so I was wanting to 
> avoid confusion

OK, that makes sense now then.

>> I thought you meant
>> the "auto-switch" that you said distributed the network to the six
>> devices in your lounge room.
> 
> ok. NBN box is in the study, as is the TPG modem/router. TV is in the 
> lounge room. cable goes from TPG/MR to an ethernet wall socket in the 
> study. there's an ethernet outlet from that in the lounge room. cable 
> connects from this to a distribution auto switch. cables from the switch 
> connect the TV and the Edimax wifi sender and other equipment
>
>>>> Anyway, the length limitation is due to timing issues rather than
>>>> signal losses over the cable length, so a "booster" wouldn't work.
>>>> If you actually had a length problem, the solution would be to move
>>>> to fiber optic cabling, but you don't have that problem - the length
>>>> you're talking about should work easily with any normal copper
>>>> Ethernet cable.
>>>>
>>> well if there's no solution, I guess I'll just have to stick with wifi
>> There's clearly a solution. What about the four other devices in your
>> lounge room besides the TV and the Edimax WiFi access point (assuming
>> that doesn't work with anything else either), are they working?
> 
> yes everything else works. only the tv does not connect via ethernet, 
> but connects via wifi no problem

Well ethernet cables are not selective about the IP addresses they allow
through them over a certain length, so if some of your devices are working
at the end of that cable, then it isn't the problem. The other parts you
eliminated from the equation when you successfully tested connecting the
router to the TV directly were the Edimax WiFi access point (mentioned
above), and the auto-switch. This means that if you run a cable from the
wall socket in the lounge room straight to the TV, bypassing the Edimax
and the auto-switch, the TV should also connect. If, in the original
configuration, disabling the Edimax WiFi device doesn't resolve the trouble,
it must be the auto-switch that is causing you the problem (or equally the
TV, that's doing something the switch doesn't like, but your router puts up
with). You might try connecting the cable to the TV to a different port on
the auto-switch in case there's just an issue with that particular port.
Failing that, try another auto-switch.

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#60436

Fromfelix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
Date2017-07-08 15:55 +1000
Message-ID<esbaeaFs6iaU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60434
On Saturday, 8 Jul 2017 1:21 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>> On Monday, 3 Jul 2017 9:18 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, 2 Jul 2017 10:44 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 6:29 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 12:28 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>>>>> try connecting a laptop to
>>>>>>>> whatever network connection you want the TV to use (cable or wifi),
>>>>>>>> look at the network settings it is assigned automatically and copy
>>>>>>>> those in the Static IP settings on the TV before disconnecting the
>>>>>>>> laptop and connecting up the TV. Unless you've gone and assigned a
>>>>>>>> static IP to the MAC address of your laptop in the modem's
>>>>>>>> configuration, it should work.
>>>>>>> great! I'll try that now and report back..
>>>>>> unfortunately that didn't work because I discovered there's no manual
>>>>>> mode for the LAN connection. the tv connects automatically, and although
>>>>>> it's possible to edit the connection data, since in this case the tv
>>>>>> won't connect, no editing of the connection is possible. however, I am
>>>>>> happy to say I have made significant progress! as the saying goes, if
>>>>>> mohammed wont go to the mountain, the mountain must go to mohammed! so I
>>>>>> took the router to the tv room and ran a cable back to the NBN box (yes,
>>>>>> a very long cable!) and then connected a short cable from the router to
>>>>>> the tv, and the tv connects via lan to the internet, no problem. so it
>>>>>> seems that TPG were correct and the length of cable is the issue,
>>>>> But you still have a long cable going from the modem to the router,
>>>>> and presumably it was working with your other devices connected
>>>>> to the router before anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> However if you had the Edimax WiFi device running at the same
>>>>> time as you were trying to connect the TV directly with the
>>>>> cable, perhaps the TV was still trying to connect on WiFi
>>>>> and falling back to the cable connection each time that failed,
>>>>> causing the connected-disconnected cycle. By disconnecting the
>>>>> WiFi access point when you moved the router over to the TV,
>>>>> you eliminated this problem.
>>>> I had disabled the wifi connection before trying to connect via
>>>> ethernet. you can only use one or the other, and you have to tell the tv
>>>> which one to connect to
>>> Did you disable the Edimax device as well, just to be sure?
>> why would that be necessary? the tv is not trying to connect to it, and
>> I have to tell it which connection to use, lan or wifi
> Just in case the TV is actually trying to connect with the WiFi access
> point that you've configured (although disabled) and disabling the wired
> connection when it does so, then changing it's mind and going back to the
> wired conenction again. It would be a software bug in the TV, but it's
> the sort of thing I've seen before in poorly developed network software.
> If it were the problem, a firmware update may have already been released
> to fix it.
>
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> prompts me to ask, is there such as thing as a LAN signal booster?
>>>>>> because it seems that the problem is simply a low level of signal
>>>>>> reaching the tv from the router.
>>>>> So you think the 70' cable from the modem is OK, but the cable that
>>>>> runs from the router in the lounge room to the TV in the same room
>>>>> is too long. Unless you have a lounge room over 70' long, that doesn't
>>>>> make much sense.
>>>>    the router is in the study, I just moved it to the lounge room so I
>>>> could run a short cable to the tv, and the tv connected.
>>> Have you started calling the modem the "router"?
>> yes because Rod was calling the NBN box the modem, so I was wanting to
>> avoid confusion
> OK, that makes sense now then.
>
>>> I thought you meant
>>> the "auto-switch" that you said distributed the network to the six
>>> devices in your lounge room.
>> ok. NBN box is in the study, as is the TPG modem/router. TV is in the
>> lounge room. cable goes from TPG/MR to an ethernet wall socket in the
>> study. there's an ethernet outlet from that in the lounge room. cable
>> connects from this to a distribution auto switch. cables from the switch
>> connect the TV and the Edimax wifi sender and other equipment
>>
>>>>> Anyway, the length limitation is due to timing issues rather than
>>>>> signal losses over the cable length, so a "booster" wouldn't work.
>>>>> If you actually had a length problem, the solution would be to move
>>>>> to fiber optic cabling, but you don't have that problem - the length
>>>>> you're talking about should work easily with any normal copper
>>>>> Ethernet cable.
>>>>>
>>>> well if there's no solution, I guess I'll just have to stick with wifi
>>> There's clearly a solution. What about the four other devices in your
>>> lounge room besides the TV and the Edimax WiFi access point (assuming
>>> that doesn't work with anything else either), are they working?
>> yes everything else works. only the tv does not connect via ethernet,
>> but connects via wifi no problem
> Well ethernet cables are not selective about the IP addresses they allow
> through them over a certain length, so if some of your devices are working
> at the end of that cable, then it isn't the problem. The other parts you
> eliminated from the equation when you successfully tested connecting the
> router to the TV directly were the Edimax WiFi access point (mentioned
> above), and the auto-switch. This means that if you run a cable from the
> wall socket in the lounge room straight to the TV, bypassing the Edimax
> and the auto-switch, the TV should also connect. If, in the original
> configuration, disabling the Edimax WiFi device doesn't resolve the trouble,
> it must be the auto-switch that is causing you the problem (or equally the
> TV, that's doing something the switch doesn't like, but your router puts up
> with). You might try connecting the cable to the TV to a different port on
> the auto-switch in case there's just an issue with that particular port.
> Failing that, try another auto-switch.
>

all good suggestions. I will try them, and report. thanks,


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#60437

Fromfelix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
Date2017-07-08 17:07 +1000
Message-ID<esbeljFt7lgU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60436
On Saturday, 8 Jul 2017 3:55 PM, felix wrote:
> On Saturday, 8 Jul 2017 1:21 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Monday, 3 Jul 2017 9:18 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, 2 Jul 2017 10:44 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 6:29 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 12:28 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>>>>>> try connecting a laptop to
>>>>>>>>> whatever network connection you want the TV to use (cable or 
>>>>>>>>> wifi),
>>>>>>>>> look at the network settings it is assigned automatically and 
>>>>>>>>> copy
>>>>>>>>> those in the Static IP settings on the TV before disconnecting 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> laptop and connecting up the TV. Unless you've gone and 
>>>>>>>>> assigned a
>>>>>>>>> static IP to the MAC address of your laptop in the modem's
>>>>>>>>> configuration, it should work.
>>>>>>>> great! I'll try that now and report back..
>>>>>>> unfortunately that didn't work because I discovered there's no 
>>>>>>> manual
>>>>>>> mode for the LAN connection. the tv connects automatically, and 
>>>>>>> although
>>>>>>> it's possible to edit the connection data, since in this case 
>>>>>>> the tv
>>>>>>> won't connect, no editing of the connection is possible. 
>>>>>>> however, I am
>>>>>>> happy to say I have made significant progress! as the saying 
>>>>>>> goes, if
>>>>>>> mohammed wont go to the mountain, the mountain must go to 
>>>>>>> mohammed! so I
>>>>>>> took the router to the tv room and ran a cable back to the NBN 
>>>>>>> box (yes,
>>>>>>> a very long cable!) and then connected a short cable from the 
>>>>>>> router to
>>>>>>> the tv, and the tv connects via lan to the internet, no problem. 
>>>>>>> so it
>>>>>>> seems that TPG were correct and the length of cable is the issue,
>>>>>> But you still have a long cable going from the modem to the router,
>>>>>> and presumably it was working with your other devices connected
>>>>>> to the router before anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However if you had the Edimax WiFi device running at the same
>>>>>> time as you were trying to connect the TV directly with the
>>>>>> cable, perhaps the TV was still trying to connect on WiFi
>>>>>> and falling back to the cable connection each time that failed,
>>>>>> causing the connected-disconnected cycle. By disconnecting the
>>>>>> WiFi access point when you moved the router over to the TV,
>>>>>> you eliminated this problem.
>>>>> I had disabled the wifi connection before trying to connect via
>>>>> ethernet. you can only use one or the other, and you have to tell 
>>>>> the tv
>>>>> which one to connect to
>>>> Did you disable the Edimax device as well, just to be sure?
>>> why would that be necessary? the tv is not trying to connect to it, and
>>> I have to tell it which connection to use, lan or wifi
>> Just in case the TV is actually trying to connect with the WiFi access
>> point that you've configured (although disabled) and disabling the wired
>> connection when it does so, then changing it's mind and going back to 
>> the
>> wired conenction again. It would be a software bug in the TV, but it's
>> the sort of thing I've seen before in poorly developed network software.
>> If it were the problem, a firmware update may have already been released
>> to fix it.
>>
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> prompts me to ask, is there such as thing as a LAN signal booster?
>>>>>>> because it seems that the problem is simply a low level of signal
>>>>>>> reaching the tv from the router.
>>>>>> So you think the 70' cable from the modem is OK, but the cable that
>>>>>> runs from the router in the lounge room to the TV in the same room
>>>>>> is too long. Unless you have a lounge room over 70' long, that 
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> make much sense.
>>>>>    the router is in the study, I just moved it to the lounge room 
>>>>> so I
>>>>> could run a short cable to the tv, and the tv connected.
>>>> Have you started calling the modem the "router"?
>>> yes because Rod was calling the NBN box the modem, so I was wanting to
>>> avoid confusion
>> OK, that makes sense now then.
>>
>>>> I thought you meant
>>>> the "auto-switch" that you said distributed the network to the six
>>>> devices in your lounge room.
>>> ok. NBN box is in the study, as is the TPG modem/router. TV is in the
>>> lounge room. cable goes from TPG/MR to an ethernet wall socket in the
>>> study. there's an ethernet outlet from that in the lounge room. cable
>>> connects from this to a distribution auto switch. cables from the 
>>> switch
>>> connect the TV and the Edimax wifi sender and other equipment
>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, the length limitation is due to timing issues rather than
>>>>>> signal losses over the cable length, so a "booster" wouldn't work.
>>>>>> If you actually had a length problem, the solution would be to move
>>>>>> to fiber optic cabling, but you don't have that problem - the length
>>>>>> you're talking about should work easily with any normal copper
>>>>>> Ethernet cable.
>>>>>>
>>>>> well if there's no solution, I guess I'll just have to stick with 
>>>>> wifi
>>>> There's clearly a solution. What about the four other devices in your
>>>> lounge room besides the TV and the Edimax WiFi access point (assuming
>>>> that doesn't work with anything else either), are they working?
>>> yes everything else works. only the tv does not connect via ethernet,
>>> but connects via wifi no problem
>> Well ethernet cables are not selective about the IP addresses they allow
>> through them over a certain length, so if some of your devices are 
>> working
>> at the end of that cable, then it isn't the problem. The other parts you
>> eliminated from the equation when you successfully tested connecting the
>> router to the TV directly were the Edimax WiFi access point (mentioned
>> above), and the auto-switch. This means that if you run a cable from the
>> wall socket in the lounge room straight to the TV, bypassing the Edimax
>> and the auto-switch, the TV should also connect. If, in the original
>> configuration, disabling the Edimax WiFi device doesn't resolve the 
>> trouble,
>> it must be the auto-switch that is causing you the problem (or 
>> equally the
>> TV, that's doing something the switch doesn't like, but your router 
>> puts up
>> with). You might try connecting the cable to the TV to a different 
>> port on
>> the auto-switch in case there's just an issue with that particular port.
>> Failing that, try another auto-switch.
>>
>
> all good suggestions. I will try them, and report. thanks,
>
>
well this is interesting! before doing anything else, I connected the 
ethernet cable (after disconnecting the wifi of course) and the tv 
connected instantly! I had noticed that the auto switch had shifted 
adjacent to a power board, so I moved it away. could the problem have 
been RF/EMF corruption? or perhaps a dodgy socket in the auto switch, 
and just moving the switch a bit made the connection good? in any case 
it's working fine now (I tried disconnecting and reconnecting several 
times). so leave sleeping dogs lie methinks. or in this case sleeping 
auto switches..


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Fromnot@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Date2017-07-08 07:16 +0000
Message-ID<ojq0s5$12nc$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#60437
felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
> On Saturday, 8 Jul 2017 3:55 PM, felix wrote:
>> On Saturday, 8 Jul 2017 1:21 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Monday, 3 Jul 2017 9:18 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, 2 Jul 2017 10:44 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>>>> felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 1 Jul 2017 6:29 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> well if there's no solution, I guess I'll just have to stick with 
>>>>>> wifi
>>>>> There's clearly a solution. What about the four other devices in your
>>>>> lounge room besides the TV and the Edimax WiFi access point (assuming
>>>>> that doesn't work with anything else either), are they working?
>>>> yes everything else works. only the tv does not connect via ethernet,
>>>> but connects via wifi no problem
>>> Well ethernet cables are not selective about the IP addresses they allow
>>> through them over a certain length, so if some of your devices are 
>>> working
>>> at the end of that cable, then it isn't the problem. The other parts you
>>> eliminated from the equation when you successfully tested connecting the
>>> router to the TV directly were the Edimax WiFi access point (mentioned
>>> above), and the auto-switch. This means that if you run a cable from the
>>> wall socket in the lounge room straight to the TV, bypassing the Edimax
>>> and the auto-switch, the TV should also connect. If, in the original
>>> configuration, disabling the Edimax WiFi device doesn't resolve the 
>>> trouble,
>>> it must be the auto-switch that is causing you the problem (or 
>>> equally the
>>> TV, that's doing something the switch doesn't like, but your router 
>>> puts up
>>> with). You might try connecting the cable to the TV to a different 
>>> port on
>>> the auto-switch in case there's just an issue with that particular port.
>>> Failing that, try another auto-switch.
>>>
>>
>> all good suggestions. I will try them, and report. thanks,
>>
>>
> well this is interesting! before doing anything else, I connected the 
> ethernet cable (after disconnecting the wifi of course) and the tv 
> connected instantly! I had noticed that the auto switch had shifted 
> adjacent to a power board, so I moved it away. could the problem have 
> been RF/EMF corruption? or perhaps a dodgy socket in the auto switch, 
> and just moving the switch a bit made the connection good?

That sounds most likely.

> in any case 
> it's working fine now (I tried disconnecting and reconnecting several 
> times). so leave sleeping dogs lie methinks. or in this case sleeping 
> auto switches..

Sounds good, you'll know where to start looking if it begins acting
up again.

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