Re: VHS Tape Collectors

From	keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
Newsgroups	aus.tv, aus.computers
Subject	Re: VHS Tape Collectors
Date	2017-03-25 13:47 +1000
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On 3/25/2017 12:47 PM, Blue Heeler wrote:
> keithr0 wrote:
>
>> On 3/25/2017 12:55 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>> Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> wrote:
>>>> On 23/03/2017 10:39 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>>>> Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> The most primitive computer I programmed had a card reader.
>>>>>> You would use a pencil to mark the boxes and the card reader
>>>>>> would then load the program and run it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought it was called something like the System 2000 but I
>>>>>> could be wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>>  What was the programming language?
>>>>>
>>>>>  If BASIC, it may have been a HP (Hewlett Packard) 2000 Time Share
>>>>> System. Those systems often had an optical marked-card reader,
>>>>> so users - often students - could write their programs offline,
>>>>> needing only a pencil. It was one of the genarations of HP
>>>>> computers I supported (working for HP).
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure it was BASIC. There was a terminal that looked
>>>> 70's era.  Black keyboard integrated in with the CRT very basic
>>>> looking thing.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, we would all fill our cards in to program it and then feed
>>>> them in to program it. Pretty sure you could do a BASIC listing
>>>> once loaded.
>>>>
>>>> But, it's from very distant memory and I really can't recall much
>>>> more about it.
>>>
>>>  The system was probably similar to this one.
>>>
>>> <http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=411>
>>>
>>>  This is the second generation version, because it has two 2100A/S
>>> computers, instead of 2116 (2114?) ones, and a 7905 moving-head disc
>>> (no, not disk), instead of earlier head-per track ones. On the
>>> bottom-right the papertape reader and on the top-left a (7970B)
>>> reel-to-reel tape drive.
>>>
>>>  The card-reader probably looked like this:
>>>
>>> <http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=277>
>>>
>>>  The terminal probably was one of these ones:
>>>
>>> <http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=94>
>>>
>>>  'My' (Delta werken) system looked like the left-cabinet of the
>>> 2000F Time Share System, with the addition of the papertape reader.
>>> It's computer probably was a newer one, of the 21MX series:
>>>
>>> <http://hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=108>
>>>
>>>  Thanks for letting me have another look in the HP Computer Museum!
>>>
>> ICL also made optical mark readers (among others)
>
> As did NCR
>
The only ones that I had experience of were on an ICL machine that ABS 
used for a mid 1970s census, they could have been made by anybody but 
had ICL on the covers. IBM made them too. Even large computer 
manufacturers buy in stuff and put their own name on it.

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Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-20 13:42 +1100
  Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-20 11:03 +0800
    Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-20 14:18 -0600
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-20 22:15 +0000
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2017-03-21 10:09 +1100
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-21 08:51 +0800
            Re: VHS Tape Collectors Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2017-03-21 13:34 +1100
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-21 11:47 +1100
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-22 22:21 +0000
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-21 06:47 +0800
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-21 15:24 +1100
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-21 14:10 +0800
            Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-21 10:17 -0600
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-22 09:18 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-22 13:31 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-22 10:04 -0600
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-23 06:30 +1100
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-22 19:28 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-22 21:29 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-22 20:41 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-24 12:23 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-25 10:05 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-03-22 20:22 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-23 10:26 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-23 12:28 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-23 16:20 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-23 22:45 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-03-23 14:39 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-24 22:20 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-03-24 14:55 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-25 07:04 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-03-26 20:14 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-04-04 17:43 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-04-05 07:44 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-04-05 08:07 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-04-05 14:26 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-04-05 14:05 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-04-05 19:34 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-04-05 21:20 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-04-05 21:19 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-25 12:26 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors "Blue Heeler" <woof@barque.org> - 2017-03-25 02:47 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-25 13:47 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors "Blue Heeler" <woof@barque.org> - 2017-03-25 03:56 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-25 15:36 +1000
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-03-22 20:09 +0000
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-23 12:38 +0800
            Re: VHS Tape Collectors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-03-23 14:34 +0000
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-24 06:49 +0800
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-21 11:42 +1100
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-21 10:24 -0600
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-21 18:50 +1100
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-21 10:31 -0600
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-22 07:53 +0800

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