Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2

From	"3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.ipad, aus.computers
Subject	Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2
Date	2016-04-22 13:27 +1000
Message-ID	<dntk1lFfikuU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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"AV3" <arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote in message 
news:nfbukj$anb$1@news.albasani.net...
> On 4/21/16, 15:11, 3899jk wrote:
>>
>>
>> "AV3" <arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:nfatje$suv$1@news.albasani.net...
>>> On 4/21/16, 1:56, Patty Winter wrote:
>>>> In article<dnqp9cFodflU1@mid.individual.net>,
>>>> Rod Speed<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> What I gather from the extensive discussion here is that the OP hadn't
>>> used his original, still functioning password for a long time, forgot 
>>> it,
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> and had no way of proving his ownership,
>>
>> That is a lie.
>>
>>> since the seller he had bought it from was unauthorized
>>
>> Legally that is not required in Australia and it is in fact illegal
>> for Apple to say that unless you buy the idevice from an
>> authorised reseller, they have no legal obligations to you at all.
>>
>>> and his purchase "receipt" lacked the printed serial number.
>>
>> That's a lie too.
>
>
> Neither are lies.

Both are bare faced lies.

> The seller's bona fides was destroyed by supplying his customer originally 
> with a receipt lacking the printed serial number.

Another bare faced lie. He is not responsible
for what the seller does receipt wise.

> The customer destroyed his bona fides by submitting that "receipt" with 
> the serial number hand-written on it.

Another bare faced lie. APPLE asked him to write the serial number on it.

>> The seller supplied a second invoice with the serial
>> number printed on it and Apple can trivially check with them that
>> it is a genuine invoice and that it is not a fake produced by Don.
>>
>> And Apple has other ways to check that the ipad has been used
>> by Don all this time, like checking the ip address its been used
>> from and noticing that the original Apple ID that was used to
>> setup the ipad initially contains his company name. So it isnt
>> a stolen ipad. And as been said repeatedly here, they can get
>> him to take it to an Apple Store, have the store unlock it and
>> check what is on that ipad and that Don can tell them what
>> is on it to prove that it isnt a stolen ipad too.

> Neither the OP nor the unauthorized seller is entitled to reconsideration 
> of a different "receipt," not submitted originally as proof of ownership.

another bare faced lie. And it is in fact illegal for Apple
to require that any idevice must be purchased from an
authorised reseller, in this country,

> Apple was right to close the case after submission  of a dodgy receipt.

Another bare faced lie. And it isnt a dodgy receipt anyway.

> I await with confidence the failure of any attempt to sue Apple for 
> further consideration of the case.

We aren't actually stupid enough to need to sue anyone
in that situation. We have a small claims system which is
MUCH cheaper to use, in which Apple is absolutely
guaranteed to lose if they are actually stupid enough to
run that line of yours above.

Even Apple isn't actually that stupid, you watch.

> The OP is represented here as a known merchant in the Australia-NZ market.

That is a fact that even someone as stupid as you can check for yourself.

> If so experienced, I find his whining about mistreatment disingenuous, to 
> say the least.

You don’t get to 'find' anything at all, ever.

You're just another pig ignorant fuckwit yank
that doesn’t have a fucking clue about the law,
or anything else at all either and is in fact just
another pathological liar.

> I find all the whining from you and your like

Another bare faced lie.

> proof of how helpless and ignorant users of unauthorized devices are.

There is no legal requirement for any device to be 'authorised' here.

It is in fact illegal to require that here.

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  Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 07:35 +0000
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          Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-14 20:17 +0000
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                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:54 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:55 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 20:54 +0000
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                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-17 20:21 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-17 16:41 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-17 20:51 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-17 16:54 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-18 17:24 +0000
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                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 11:39 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 11:38 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2016-04-21 05:56 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-04-21 21:05 +1200
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 19:46 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 19:41 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2016-04-21 12:02 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 05:11 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2016-04-21 21:26 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 13:27 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-26 15:41 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 15:04 +1000
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                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-20 11:37 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 12:17 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 08:25 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-17 19:42 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-04-18 11:35 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 11:58 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 11:50 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:37 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:48 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 12:55 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 10:26 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-17 21:04 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 11:56 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 08:12 +1000
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                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-18 17:53 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 11:45 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-04-21 13:33 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 05:04 +1000
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                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 08:14 +1000
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            Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 20:20 -0400
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                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 20:29 -0400
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                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-04-23 04:51 +0800
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                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 20:56 -0400
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-04-16 17:59 -0700
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                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 18:04 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-20 16:01 +0000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 10:31 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-20 21:09 -0400
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                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-26 15:41 -0400
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                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-26 22:11 -0400
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                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-27 18:02 -0400
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              Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 18:05 +1000
                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 12:13 +1000
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    Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 10:45 -0400
    Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-16 16:32 +0000
      Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 09:51 +1000
        Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 20:07 -0400
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            Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-16 20:50 -0400
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                Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-17 11:10 -0400
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        Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-04-19 15:07 +0000
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