Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.ipad, aus.computers
Subject	Re: Apple have stolen my ipad Part 2
Date	2016-04-21 11:50 +1000
Message-ID	<dnqpvtFoi6gU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>> his ipad is 3.5 years old so it's already beyond that time frame.

>> It isnt the ipad that has failed,

> exactly why it's not a warranty issue.

It's the iOS update that doesn't work on his ipad
that is the problem and that's what the law here says.

>> it's the latest version of iOS that is the problem.

> nope.

Yep.

> it's because he forgot his password and is locked out.

The consumer guarantee problem arises because Apple
refuses to reset that password as the law requires them to do.

>> And legally, the owner of the system has the reasonable
>> expectation that when Apple offers an iOS update, it will
>> work on their idevice just like what the owner is updating
>> from, or that Apple will provide some way to return to the
>> previous version that did work if it stops working.

> the version of ios works just fine, as millions of people can attest.

> some had to type in their password, which they did. no big deal.

It is when that password is the one that was originally used
to  setup the ipad initially and has not been used since.

The law requires that Apple must reset that password
to allow the ipad to be used with the new version of iOS.

>>> more importantly, the failure is not with the ipad
>>> at all. there is nothing wrong with the ipad at all.

>> So Apple is legally obliged to fix his problem by resetting
>> the password when iOS is now demanding the password
>> which as not been used since it was originally setup can
>> no longer be remembered.

> not unless he proves that he's the legitimate owner

He's done that. And Apple can check for themselves that
it has always been used at a particular ip address and that
it continues to be used at that ip address and so isnt stolen.

> and not some rando who found the ipad on the street.

They now that already, the email address contains his company name, fuckwit.

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