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Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
> On 25.12.2019 23:28, Pavel wrote:
>> Öö Tiib wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 26 December 2019 00:06:27 UTC+2, Pavel  wrote:
>>>> Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
>>>>> On 25.12.2019 22:37, Pavel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> bonitas::_ is neither used by C++ implementation nor a name in the
>>>>>> global namespace so it seems not compliant to either the 2011
>>>>>> Standard
>>>>>> or n4830 on both fronts.
>>>>>
>>>>> And this does not make sense.
>>>> How so?
>>>
>>> I also do not get your logic how it is not compliant.
>>> It is not in global namespace nor contains double underscores
>>> nor starts with underscore followed by capital letter and so
>>> it is compliant. I don't like it ... but it is just matter of taste.
>>>
>> I see. My logic is this: from the below:
>>
>> 3 In addition, some identifiers are reserved for use by C++
>> implementations and shall not be used otherwise; no
>> diagnostic is required.
>> (3.1) — Each identifier that contains a double underscore __ or begins
>> with an underscore followed by an
>> uppercase letter is reserved to the implementation for any use.
>> (3.2) — Each identifier that begins with an underscore is reserved to
>> the implementation for use as a name in
>> the global namespace.
>>
>> I make 2 conclusions:
>>
>> A. some identifiers (in particular those starting with _) shall not be
>> used by otherwise than by C++ implementation
> 
> The parenthetical remark does not follow from anything.
except it follows from 3.2 cited right above
> 
> 
>> B. If an identifier starting with _ not followed by an uppercase letter
>> is used by C++ implementation, it should be used as a name in the global
>> namespace.
> 
> ... or namespace `std`.
*that* is what does not seem to follow from anything.
> 
> 
>>  From that it follows that:
>>
>> - bonitas::_ is not allowed because of A.
>> - if A. did not exist, it would be still not allowed because of the
>> clause Alf referred to in his recollection of the Standard, namely:
>>
>> Identifiers starting with `_` are reserved in the global namespace.
>>
>> What I am  missing?
> 
> Rather, the question is where you get these ideas.
Oh, the answer to this one is simple: boolean logic applied to A and B
above.
> 
> 
> - Alf

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  Re: I'd like to have unusing "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-12-12 13:51 +0100
    Re: I'd like to have unusing Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-12 05:47 -0800
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    Re: I'd like to have unusing Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-12 19:40 +0100
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