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Re: I'd like to have unusing

Subject Re: I'd like to have unusing
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++
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From Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo>
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Date 2019-12-25 17:28 -0500

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Öö Tiib wrote:
> On Thursday, 26 December 2019 00:06:27 UTC+2, Pavel  wrote:
>> Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
>>> On 25.12.2019 22:37, Pavel wrote:
>>>
>>>> bonitas::_ is neither used by C++ implementation nor a name in the
>>>> global namespace so it seems not compliant to either the 2011 Standard
>>>> or n4830 on both fronts.
>>>
>>> And this does not make sense.
>> How so?
> 
> I also do not get your logic how it is not compliant.
> It is not in global namespace nor contains double underscores
> nor starts with underscore followed by capital letter and so
> it is compliant. I don't like it ... but it is just matter of taste.
> 
I see. My logic is this: from the below:

3 In addition, some identifiers are reserved for use by C++
implementations and shall not be used otherwise; no
diagnostic is required.
(3.1) — Each identifier that contains a double underscore __ or begins
with an underscore followed by an
uppercase letter is reserved to the implementation for any use.
(3.2) — Each identifier that begins with an underscore is reserved to
the implementation for use as a name in
the global namespace.

I make 2 conclusions:

A. some identifiers (in particular those starting with _) shall not be
used by otherwise than by C++ implementation
B. If an identifier starting with _ not followed by an uppercase letter
is used by C++ implementation, it should be used as a name in the global
namespace.

From that it follows that:

- bonitas::_ is not allowed because of A.
- if A. did not exist, it would be still not allowed because of the
clause Alf referred to in his recollection of the Standard, namely:

Identifiers starting with `_` are reserved in the global namespace.

What I am  missing?

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I'd like to have unusing Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-12 12:49 +0100
  Re: I'd like to have unusing "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-12-12 13:51 +0100
    Re: I'd like to have unusing Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-12 05:47 -0800
      Re: I'd like to have unusing "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-12-12 17:58 +0100
        Re: I'd like to have unusing Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-12 09:40 -0800
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      Re: I'd like to have unusing "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-12-12 17:58 +0100
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    Re: I'd like to have unusing Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2019-12-25 13:19 -0500
      Re: I'd like to have unusing "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-12-25 20:09 +0100
        Re: I'd like to have unusing Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2019-12-25 16:37 -0500
          Re: I'd like to have unusing "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-12-25 22:56 +0100
            Re: I'd like to have unusing Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2019-12-25 17:06 -0500
              Re: I'd like to have unusing Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-25 14:14 -0800
                Re: I'd like to have unusing Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2019-12-25 17:28 -0500
                Re: I'd like to have unusing "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-12-26 00:49 +0100
                Re: I'd like to have unusing Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2019-12-25 19:54 -0500
                Re: I'd like to have unusing "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2019-12-26 03:53 +0100
                Re: I'd like to have unusing Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2019-12-25 22:32 -0500
                Re: I'd like to have unusing Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-26 03:01 -0800
                Re: I'd like to have unusing Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-26 03:20 -0800
                Re: I'd like to have unusing Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2019-12-27 11:24 -0500
                Re: I'd like to have unusing Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2019-12-27 09:22 -0800
                Re: I'd like to have unusing Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2020-01-02 23:47 -0500
                Re: I'd like to have unusing Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2020-01-02 23:46 -0800
                Re: I'd like to have unusing Pavel <pauldontspamtolk@removeyourself.dontspam.yahoo> - 2020-01-04 23:46 -0500
                Re: I'd like to have unusing Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2020-01-04 18:43 -0500
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    Re: I'd like to have unusing Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-12-12 18:34 +0000
      Re: I'd like to have unusing Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2019-12-12 11:17 -0800
    Re: I'd like to have unusing Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-12 19:40 +0100
      Re: I'd like to have unusing Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2019-12-12 19:56 +0000
        Re: I'd like to have unusing Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2019-12-13 06:35 +0100

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