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Re: Do we still value contributions?

From Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.project
Subject Re: Do we still value contributions?
Date 2019-12-24 19:00 +0100
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Le mardi 24 décembre 2019 à 09:51:04-0600, John Goerzen a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I mean this post as a challenge, but not as blame.  I know many teams do
> hard work that can be thankless, and my intent is not to blame them, but
> to challenge us as a project to question our processes and attitudes.
> 
> Here's what I mean:
> 
> On October 12, I uploaded glktermw, a new package.  On October 19, I
> uploaded nncp, also a new package.  I have heard nothing at all about
> either of them since, they remain in the NEW queue but even inquiries on
> this have yielded nothing.  In that time, NNCP has had several updates
> and I packaged one of them, but finally I stopped bothering; I mean, if
> it's just going to sit in NEW -- and perhaps even reduce the importance
> of processing it (the NEW page now shows its age at 3 weeks, which is
> the age of the second upload, not the original one) -- why should I?
> 
> Strangely, I also uploaded a package on October 12, glulxe.  It was
> accepted a month later, despite depending on glktermw, which was and is
> still in NEW.
> 
> This situation makes me wonder: is it worth it putting in the effort to
> package things up for Debian?  At the moment, it seems the answer is no.

NEW is processed by hand by the FTP Team.

The FTP Team is, as any other part of the project, constituted of
volunteers who do the job on their free time.

Maybe you should keep that in mind.

-- 
Pierre-Elliott Bécue
GPG: 9AE0 4D98 6400 E3B6 7528  F493 0D44 2664 1949 74E2
It's far easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them.

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Do we still value contributions? John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> - 2019-12-24 17:00 +0100
  Re: Do we still value contributions? Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2019-12-24 17:20 +0100
    Re: Do we still value contributions? John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> - 2019-12-24 19:20 +0100
    Re: Do we still value contributions? Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2019-12-25 21:20 +0100
      Re: Do we still value contributions? John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> - 2019-12-26 05:00 +0100
      Re: Do we still value contributions? Xavier <yadd@debian.org> - 2019-12-26 08:00 +0100
  Re: Do we still value contributions? Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2019-12-24 19:00 +0100
    Re: Do we still value contributions? John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> - 2019-12-24 19:10 +0100
      Re: Do we still value contributions? Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2019-12-25 23:00 +0100
        Re: Do we still value contributions? John Goerzen <jgoerzen@complete.org> - 2019-12-26 04:50 +0100
          Re: Do we still value contributions? Bernd Zeimetz <bernd@bzed.de> - 2019-12-26 15:00 +0100
            Re: Do we still value contributions? Mo Zhou <lumin@debian.org> - 2019-12-26 16:40 +0100
              Re: Do we still value contributions? Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2019-12-26 17:10 +0100
                Re: Do we still value contributions? Ryan Kavanagh <rak@debian.org> - 2019-12-26 17:20 +0100
                Re: Do we still value contributions? Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2019-12-26 17:40 +0100
                Re: Do we still value contributions? Pirate Praveen <praveen@onenetbeyond.org> - 2019-12-26 18:00 +0100
            Re: Do we still value contributions? Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2019-12-26 17:30 +0100
            Re: Do we still value contributions? Steffen Möller <steffen_moeller@gmx.de> - 2019-12-27 02:00 +0100
              Re: Do we still value contributions? Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2019-12-27 12:40 +0100
                Re: Do we still value contributions? Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2020-01-04 04:10 +0100
        possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Mo Zhou <lumin@debian.org> - 2019-12-26 05:20 +0100
          Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value  contributions? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2019-12-26 15:10 +0100
            Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value  contributions? Thorsten Alteholz <debian@alteholz.de> - 2019-12-26 17:20 +0100
              Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value  contributions? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2019-12-26 17:40 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2019-12-26 18:10 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value  contributions? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2019-12-26 18:10 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2019-12-28 11:10 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value  contributions? Michael Banck <mbanck@debian.org> - 2019-12-28 11:50 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2019-12-28 15:40 +0100
              Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value  contributions? Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-12-26 17:40 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value  contributions? Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2019-12-26 20:00 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2019-12-26 20:10 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2019-12-28 11:00 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2019-12-28 11:40 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2019-12-28 15:50 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2019-12-28 16:10 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2019-12-28 21:10 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value  contributions? Thorsten Alteholz <debian@alteholz.de> - 2019-12-28 16:20 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2019-12-28 16:50 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? "Paul R. Tagliamonte" <paultag@gmail.com> - 2019-12-28 17:10 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value  contributions? Thorsten Alteholz <debian@alteholz.de> - 2019-12-28 17:30 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2019-12-29 16:00 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2019-12-29 16:10 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2019-12-31 23:00 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2019-12-29 16:00 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2019-12-29 17:50 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2019-12-29 19:20 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value  contributions? Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-12-26 20:30 +0100
              Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2019-12-28 11:10 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value  contributions? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2019-12-28 14:30 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2019-12-28 15:40 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2019-12-28 17:40 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value  contributions? Clint Adams <clint@debian.org> - 2019-12-28 21:30 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2019-12-28 23:00 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2019-12-28 23:20 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value  contributions? Mo Zhou <lumin@debian.org> - 2019-12-29 03:30 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2019-12-29 04:00 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value  contributions? Enrico Zini <enrico@enricozini.org> - 2019-12-29 09:20 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Judit Foglszinger <fgrfgr@freenet.de> - 2019-12-29 10:30 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value  contributions? Enrico Zini <enrico@enricozini.org> - 2019-12-29 16:00 +0100
                Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2019-12-29 16:10 +0100
          Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value  contributions? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2019-12-26 15:10 +0100
          Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions? Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2019-12-28 11:00 +0100
            Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value  contributions? Mo Zhou <lumin@debian.org> - 2019-12-28 12:10 +0100

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