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Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th 2020

From Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.project
Subject Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th 2020
Date 2020-02-18 15:30 +0100
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On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 09:43:53AM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
>Le lundi, 17 février 2020, 19.19:02 h CET Sam Hartman a écrit :
>> >>>>> "Jerome" == Jerome Charaoui <lavamind@debian.org> writes:
>>     Jerome> Following the announcement of the DebConf20 location, our
>>     Jerome> desire to participate became incompatible with our
>>     Jerome> commitment toward the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions
>>     Jerome> (BDS) campaign launched by Palestinian civil society in
>>     Jerome> 2005. Hence, many active Montreal-based Debian developpers,
>>     Jerome> along with a number of other Debian developpers, have
>>     Jerome> decided not to travel to Israel in August 2020 for
>>     Jerome> DebConf20.
>> 
>> 
>> I'm quite frustrated, disappointed and angry reading the above.
>> 
>> I had expressed a fairly strong discomfort with the anti-DC20 messaging
>> I got from the original contact about Montreal.
>
>To offer some contrast, although I can agree such introduction _could_ have 
>been left out of the announcement email, I find the phrasing to be honest, 
>transparent, and fair: it is not against Debian, not against DebConf, not 
>against the DebConf Committee. It is merely explaining in full sight their 
>reasons to a) not attend DebConf; b) organize that event at that time.

It's also adding a lot of unnecessary negativity, in my opinion. It's
easy enough to simply announce an event *without* this. It's another
Debian event, we have lots of them every year. There's no need for
further complaint.

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                                steve@einval.com
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Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th 2020 Sam Hartman <leader@debian.org> - 2020-02-17 19:20 +0100
  Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th 2020 Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <odyx@debian.org> - 2020-02-18 09:50 +0100
    Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2020-02-18 15:30 +0100
    Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2020-02-18 17:40 +0100
      Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2020-02-18 19:50 +0100
        Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2020-02-18 20:40 +0100
        Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana <phls@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 17:50 +0100
      Re: Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August  9th 2020 Daniel Lange <DLange@debian.org> - 2020-02-18 20:40 +0100
        Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2020-02-18 20:50 +0100
          Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2020-02-18 21:10 +0100
            Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2020-02-19 07:00 +0100
              Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Ulrike Uhlig <ulrike@debian.org> - 2020-02-19 10:20 +0100
                Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2020-02-19 17:30 +0100
              Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> - 2020-02-19 12:10 +0100
                Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 06:20 +0100
                Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 08:20 +0100
                Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 14:20 +0100
              Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana <phls@debian.org> - 2020-02-19 14:00 +0100
        Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th 2020 Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2020-02-18 21:20 +0100
      debconf decision process (was Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal  2020 -- August 6th to August 9th 2020) Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2020-02-19 13:30 +0100
      Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org> - 2020-02-19 21:30 +0100
        Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2020-02-20 00:20 +0100
          Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 06:30 +0100
            Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2020-02-20 10:50 +0100

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