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On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 11:34:01AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> tomas writes:
> > I think bigcorps love that, because they hate the decentralized nature
> > of mail.
> 
> I don't think they care (except that they don't want one of their
> competitors in control). 

Oh, they do. You can't easily monetize mail (the interfaces are standard,
for a consumer it's easy to change providers), whereas with whichever
"platform" (Facebook, LinkedIn, Slack, Google+, younameit) the audience
is captive: changing provider means giving up on your network.

>                          Government hates it, of course.  It would have
> been easy to adopt anti-spam measures that would have made what you do
> impossible, but it wasn't done.

I have the impression you're being blindsided by ideology there. To me,
Bigcorp is like state (minus First Amendment).

> > Spam pressure plus measures making the live of small mail providers
> > [difficult] help centralization.
> 
> This is true.  People also seem to like centralization, unfortunately.
> 
> > This is what I call Emergent Evil. I thon't think there's a single
> > person out there scheming out those things, but a corporation as a
> > whole does come up with that kind of perverse behaviour.
> 
> Better "emergent evil" (I've seen the term elsewhere) than the "devil"
> theory but I don't think it is useful to talk about evil at all.  They
> are just people doing what works for them (even in government, the
> biggest and most powerful bigcorp of all).

I had early and intense religious education. Not trying to offend
anyone, but I had my share of devil and then some. These days I
prefer to make do without :-)

Cheers
-- t

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Re: chromebook Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-07-09 19:00 +0200
  Re: chromebook Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-07-10 02:20 +0200
  Re: chromebook John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2019-07-10 03:40 +0200
    Re: chromebook Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-10 06:30 +0200
      Re: chromebook Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-07-10 09:20 +0200
      Re: chromebook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-10 09:30 +0200
        Re: chromebook Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-10 22:00 +0200
    Re: chromebook Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-10 08:40 +0200
      Re: chromebook Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-07-10 15:10 +0200
        Re: mutt vs HTML (was: chromebook) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-10 16:10 +0200
      Re: HTML mail (was: chromebook) John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2019-07-11 05:50 +0200
        Re: HTML mail (was: chromebook) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-11 08:30 +0200
          Re: HTML mail John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2019-07-11 09:00 +0200
            Re: HTML mail Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-11 09:20 +0200
            Re: HTML mail Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-11 09:20 +0200
              Re: HTML mail <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-11 10:10 +0200
                Re: HTML mail Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2019-07-11 11:20 +0200
                Re: HTML mail <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-11 11:40 +0200
                Re: HTML mail Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2019-07-11 16:00 +0200
                Re: HTML mail Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-07-11 16:10 +0200
                Re: HTML mail Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-07-11 19:00 +0200
                Re: HTML mail Carl Fink <carl@finknetwork.com> - 2019-07-11 20:20 +0200
                Re: HTML mail John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-11 14:30 +0200
                Re: HTML mail <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-11 14:50 +0200
                Re: HTML mail Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-11 18:00 +0200
                Re: HTML mail Thomas D Dial <tdial@acm.org> - 2019-07-11 21:30 +0200
                Re: HTML mail tomas@tuxteam.de - 2019-07-12 09:30 +0200
                Re: HTML mail Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2019-07-11 16:00 +0200
                Re: HTML mail David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-07-11 17:20 +0200
              Re: HTML mail John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2019-07-11 13:20 +0200
  Re: chromebook Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2019-07-11 04:40 +0200
    Re: chromebook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-11 10:30 +0200
      Re: Own MTA is hard (was: chromebook) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-11 10:40 +0200
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      Re: chromebook John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-11 18:40 +0200
        Re: chromebook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-12 09:40 +0200
          Re: chromebook Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-07-12 10:00 +0200
            Re: chromebook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-12 10:40 +0200
          [Off-topic] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-12 16:00 +0200
            Re: [Off-topic] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-12 16:30 +0200
            Re: [Off-topic] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-12 19:00 +0200
              Re: [Off-topic] Diagonal Arg <debian.org@niwas.net> - 2019-07-17 04:20 +0200
                Re: [Off-topic] Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-07-17 18:30 +0200
    Re: chromebook rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-07-11 14:00 +0200
      Re: chromebook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-11 14:50 +0200
        Re: chromebook Keith Bainbridge <keithrbau@gmail.com> - 2019-07-17 06:30 +0200
          Re: chromebook Diagonal Arg <debian.org@niwas.net> - 2019-07-17 06:50 +0200
            Re: chromebook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-17 09:10 +0200

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