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Re: Debian supports pridemonth?

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On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 10:24 AM Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> wrote:
>
> Gerardo Ballabio <gerardo.ballabio@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Clearly, there must be a prior assessment that any particular group's
> > values are aligned with Debian's values.
>
> Sure, of course.
>
> > And I don't think that this is, or should be, within the bounds of the
> > Publicity Team delegation.
>
> I think this is probably the place where we disagree.
>
> That said, how *do* you want to handle this, assuming that other people in
> the project do want to acknowledge important events for our community
> members?  For example, Debian has made note of Diwali in the past in
> various ways (arguably less obviously than changing the logo, to be fair),
> and it's been entirely uncontroversial.
<snip>

I think a big part of the issue here is the fact that by changing the
logo for only one group ever (presumably for one month out of every
year?), all other groups are marginalized.

Would the Debian community be willing to change the debian.org logo
for any group who a.) submits a suitable image file and b.) is aligned
with the Debian diversity statement?  If not, then what are the other
conditions, and who makes these decisions on behalf of the community?
How do we ensure that Debian remains unbiased outside the realm of
free software?  (As an aside, I think having the pridemonth logo on
the diversity statement page[1] sends the wrong message for this same
reason.)

How would the community respond if the logo were changed in support of
a fictitious "Male White Anglo-Saxon Protestant Celebration Week", for
example?  According to the diversity statement, Debian welcomes
individuals who fit in that group just as much as any other, and that
group is strongly represented among Debian contributors.

One other reason for some level of controversy is the lack of
precedent (at least that I could find).

[1] https://www.debian.org/intro/diversity

-- 
Eldon Koyle

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Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Gerardo Ballabio <gerardo.ballabio@gmail.com> - 2019-07-01 09:00 +0200
  Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2019-07-01 09:40 +0200
  Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Alex Mestiashvili <amestia@rsh2.donotuse.de> - 2019-07-01 10:40 +0200
  Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Norbert Preining <norbert@preining.info> - 2019-07-01 11:10 +0200
    Speaking your Mind Sam Hartman <leader@debian.org> - 2019-07-01 20:10 +0200
      Re: Speaking your Mind Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-07-02 16:50 +0200
        Re: Speaking your Mind Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-07-02 16:50 +0200
        Re: Speaking your Mind Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-07-02 18:10 +0200
        Re: Speaking your Mind Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2019-07-02 18:30 +0200
          Re: Speaking your Mind Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-07-19 23:30 +0200
  Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2019-07-01 18:30 +0200
    Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Karsten Merker <merker@debian.org> - 2019-07-01 22:30 +0200
      Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Marc Haber <mh+debian-project@zugschlus.de> - 2019-07-02 11:40 +0200
    Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Eldon Koyle <ekoyle@gmail.com> - 2019-07-02 00:40 +0200
      Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2019-07-02 01:10 +0200
    Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Gerardo Ballabio <gerardo.ballabio@gmail.com> - 2019-07-02 15:20 +0200
      Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org> - 2019-07-02 15:50 +0200

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