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Re: Debian supports pridemonth?

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Russ Allbery wrote:
> So, we should look to our LGBTQ project members to decide what Debian should do for Pride, to our Hispanic members to decide what Debian should do for Hispanic Heritage Month, and so forth, since they're the experts on what they would find the most meaningful within the Debian context.

A devil's advocate question/intentionally extreme example: if there
were any Nazi project members, should we leave up to them to announce
how Debian supports Nazi Month? By putting a swastika-shaped swirl on
the Debian home page?

Clearly, there must be a prior assessment that any particular group's
values are aligned with Debian's values. And I don't think that this
is, or should be, within the bounds of the Publicity Team delegation.

Now, in this particular case, I'd agree that the assessment was made
in the discussion that led to the Diversity Statement being approved.
But it seems to me that the Diversity Statement was intentionally
worded in a "least common denominator" way -- Debian welcomes minority
people, but doesn't necessarily support the initiatives of a
particular minority group.

An example that is probably more to the point: Debian certainly
welcomes Israeli people, but if publicity were to issue a statement
that Debian supports a Zionist initiative, I'm sure that many would
object. (There is of course a difference between being Israeli and
being a Zionist. I'd argue that it is the exact same difference that
there is between being LGBTQ+ and being an LGBTQ+ activist.)

On the other hand, nobody but me has spoken openly to say that it was
a mistake to issue that statement. So I'm taking that as meaning that
there is indeed a project-wide consensus that it was ok.

Thank you all for your contributions to this discussion.
Gerardo

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Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Gerardo Ballabio <gerardo.ballabio@gmail.com> - 2019-07-01 09:00 +0200
  Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2019-07-01 09:40 +0200
  Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Alex Mestiashvili <amestia@rsh2.donotuse.de> - 2019-07-01 10:40 +0200
  Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Norbert Preining <norbert@preining.info> - 2019-07-01 11:10 +0200
    Speaking your Mind Sam Hartman <leader@debian.org> - 2019-07-01 20:10 +0200
      Re: Speaking your Mind Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-07-02 16:50 +0200
        Re: Speaking your Mind Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-07-02 16:50 +0200
        Re: Speaking your Mind Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-07-02 18:10 +0200
        Re: Speaking your Mind Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2019-07-02 18:30 +0200
          Re: Speaking your Mind Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-07-19 23:30 +0200
  Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2019-07-01 18:30 +0200
    Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Karsten Merker <merker@debian.org> - 2019-07-01 22:30 +0200
      Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Marc Haber <mh+debian-project@zugschlus.de> - 2019-07-02 11:40 +0200
    Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Eldon Koyle <ekoyle@gmail.com> - 2019-07-02 00:40 +0200
      Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2019-07-02 01:10 +0200
    Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Gerardo Ballabio <gerardo.ballabio@gmail.com> - 2019-07-02 15:20 +0200
      Re: Debian supports pridemonth? Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org> - 2019-07-02 15:50 +0200

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