Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?)

From	Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?)
Date	2019-06-19 14:10 +0200
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Quoting Erik Josefsson (2019-06-19 13:38:32)
> On 6/19/19 1:15 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> 
> > Quoting deloptes (2019-06-19 12:42:13)
> >> Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> >>
> >>> In short, you really_really_ want netinstall from MicroSD!
> >> What about debootstrap? IS it possible to use it for that SoC?
> > Certainly.  Debian-installer uses debootstrap internally so that is 
> > a must.  The images Erik has used until now -http://box.redpill.dk/ 
> > - are also built with debootstrap (or rather the more flexible 
> > multistrap) using the framework I referenced in my previous post: 
> > https://salsa.debian.org/tinker-team/box
> >
> > My point in above quote is which_medium_ you want to boot from 
> > initially on a Teres-I: MicroSD rather than USB (not which method of 
> > installation you want).
> >
> > My work specifically explores how to avoid the tedious process of 
> > running debian-installer on the relatively slow Teres-I but 
> > reach_same_ result as if doing so - because in my experience running 
> > debootstrap directly can easily lead to a slightly broken system.
> 
> It is quite possible that my impression that the Ubuntu instance that 
> Teres-I is shipped with is significantly faster than your redpills is 
> just imaginary, but then Dan Ritter seemed to confirm that that 
> "native Ubuntu" probably is 2x to 8x faster.
> 
> If "native Ubuntu" is faster than "SD redpill", then I wonder how the 
> Olimex people got their Ubuntu installed in the first place? They 
> couldn't have used the Debian Installer, could they?
> 
> Or, a better question, is it within reach to run a Debian Pure Blend 
> on Teres-I without an external SD card? If so, is Dan Ritter right 
> that it will be 2x to 8x faster?

Yes, it certainly is within reach, just needs someone to do the 
reaching.

This seems a good starting point for such adventure: 
https://github.com/armbian/build/blob/master/packages/bsp/common/usr/sbin/nand-sata-install


 - Jonas

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System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the  (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-18 14:30 +0200
  Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2019-06-18 15:10 +0200
  Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-18 15:20 +0200
  Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2019-06-18 15:20 +0200
    Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-06-18 16:10 +0200
      Example of an M2 form factor SSD (was: Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-06-19 14:30 +0200
        Re: M2 form factor SSD Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2019-06-19 18:10 +0200
    Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-18 17:30 +0200
      Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-06-18 17:40 +0200
        Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2019-06-18 17:50 +0200
      Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-06-18 17:50 +0200
        Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-18 18:20 +0200
          Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-18 21:10 +0200
            Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-18 23:20 +0200
              Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2019-06-19 00:00 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-19 12:00 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-19 12:30 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-06-19 12:50 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-19 13:20 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-19 13:40 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-19 14:10 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-20 09:00 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-20 09:40 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2019-06-19 16:00 +0200
              Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-06-19 00:00 +0200
              Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-19 01:40 +0200
  Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jochen Spieker <ml@well-adjusted.de> - 2019-06-18 21:50 +0200
  Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-06-19 03:40 +0200
    Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-19 04:10 +0200
    Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-06-19 12:50 +0200
      Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-06-20 02:20 +0200
    Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-21 09:30 +0200
      Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-21 12:20 +0200
        Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-21 15:10 +0200
          Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2019-06-22 22:30 +0200
            Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-23 07:50 +0200
              Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-23 08:50 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-23 15:50 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-23 17:10 +0200
      Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-06-22 01:10 +0200
        Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-22 11:50 +0200

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