Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?)

From	Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?)
Date	2019-06-19 13:40 +0200
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On 6/19/19 1:15 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:

> Quoting deloptes (2019-06-19 12:42:13)
>> Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>>
>>> In short, you really_really_  want netinstall from MicroSD!
>> What about debootstrap? IS it possible to use it for that SoC?
> Certainly.  Debian-installer uses debootstrap internally so that is a
> must.  The images Erik has used until now -http://box.redpill.dk/  - are
> also built with debootstrap (or rather the more flexible multistrap)
> using the framework I referenced in my previous post:
> https://salsa.debian.org/tinker-team/box
>
> My point in above quote is which_medium_  you want to boot from
> initially on a Teres-I: MicroSD rather than USB (not which method of
> installation you want).
>
> My work specifically explores how to avoid the tedious process of
> running debian-installer on the relatively slow Teres-I but reach_same_  
> result as if doing so - because in my experience running debootstrap
> directly can easily lead to a slightly broken system.

It is quite possible that my impression that the Ubuntu instance that 
Teres-I is shipped with is significantly faster than your redpills is 
just imaginary, but then Dan Ritter seemed to confirm that that "native 
Ubuntu" probably is 2x to 8x faster.

If "native Ubuntu" is faster than "SD redpill", then I wonder how the 
Olimex people got their Ubuntu installed in the first place? They 
couldn't have used the Debian Installer, could they?

Or, a better question, is it within reach to run a Debian Pure Blend on 
Teres-I without an external SD card? If so, is Dan Ritter right that it 
will be 2x to 8x faster?

//Erik

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System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the  (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-18 14:30 +0200
  Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2019-06-18 15:10 +0200
  Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-18 15:20 +0200
  Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2019-06-18 15:20 +0200
    Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-06-18 16:10 +0200
      Example of an M2 form factor SSD (was: Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-06-19 14:30 +0200
        Re: M2 form factor SSD Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2019-06-19 18:10 +0200
    Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-18 17:30 +0200
      Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-06-18 17:40 +0200
        Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2019-06-18 17:50 +0200
      Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-06-18 17:50 +0200
        Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-18 18:20 +0200
          Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-18 21:10 +0200
            Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-18 23:20 +0200
              Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2019-06-19 00:00 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-19 12:00 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-19 12:30 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-06-19 12:50 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-19 13:20 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-19 13:40 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-19 14:10 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-20 09:00 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-20 09:40 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2019-06-19 16:00 +0200
              Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-06-19 00:00 +0200
              Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-19 01:40 +0200
  Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jochen Spieker <ml@well-adjusted.de> - 2019-06-18 21:50 +0200
  Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-06-19 03:40 +0200
    Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-19 04:10 +0200
    Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-06-19 12:50 +0200
      Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-06-20 02:20 +0200
    Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-21 09:30 +0200
      Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-21 12:20 +0200
        Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-21 15:10 +0200
          Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2019-06-22 22:30 +0200
            Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-23 07:50 +0200
              Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-23 08:50 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-23 15:50 +0200
                Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-23 17:10 +0200
      Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can  the (Debian) setup make a difference?) David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-06-22 01:10 +0200
        Re: System on a chip - performance relative size and setup (how can the (Debian) setup make a difference?) Erik Josefsson <erik.hjalmar.josefsson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-22 11:50 +0200

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