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Re: Insidious systemd

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On 2019-05-29, Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> wrote:
> On 2019-05-28 22:16:27 +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>> On 2019-05-27, Patrick Bartek <patrick.bartek@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi, all!
>> >
>> > Needing to convert this box from wired ethernet to wireless, I searched
>> > for a suitable network manager and wicd looked good:  No desktop
>> > environment dependencies (I use a window manager Openbox and single
>> > lxpanel), compatibility with Openbox, etc.  Imagine my surprise when
>> > during the simulated install (I always check), I discovered systemd
>> > init was set to replace sysvinit.  I had converted Stretch to the
>> > latter during its install last year, but left the systemd libraries.
>> >
>> > There was no mention of this wicd caveat or any systemd dependency
>> > anywhere.  Obviously, there were.  What other things does systemd do
>> > that users are unaware and contrary to their wishes?  I wonder . . .
>> >
>> > After more investigating, I came across wifi-radar whose simulated
>> > install doesn't muck my system.  Any suggestions for something
>> > better?   I could just go with iwconfig or iw?  No big deal.  I've done
>> > it before.  But being lazy, if I can find an app to do the work, so
>> > much the better.
>> >
>> > Thanks for any input.
>> >
>> > B
>> 
>> Are you trolling? You need to talk to the maintainers of wicd and ask
>> them why there is a systemd dependency.
>
> He shouldn't. I've a machine that is still under sysvinit, and
> I can install wicd without any dependency issue.
>

Then the dependency is not a hard one, and OP is free to not install
systemd if he wishes. There's nothing "insidious" about it.

-- 

Liam

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Insidious systemd Patrick Bartek <patrick.bartek@gmail.com> - 2019-05-27 04:10 +0200
  Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-05-27 09:50 +0200
    Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd) Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2019-05-27 18:30 +0200
    Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd) arne <sp113438@telfort.nl> - 2019-05-28 05:00 +0200
      Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-05-28 10:40 +0200
  Re: Insidious systemd Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2019-05-28 23:50 +0200
    Re: Insidious systemd Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2019-05-29 03:00 +0200
    Re: Insidious systemd Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2019-05-29 18:10 +0200
      Re: Insidious systemd Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2019-05-29 21:20 +0200
        Re: Insidious systemd Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2019-06-01 15:00 +0200
          Re: Insidious systemd Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2019-06-02 06:10 +0200
            Re: Insidious systemd David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-06-02 07:30 +0200
              Re: Insidious systemd Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2019-06-03 08:00 +0200
      Re: Insidious systemd Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2019-05-29 21:30 +0200

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