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Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

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Quoting arne (2019-05-28 04:37:46)
> On Mon, 27 May 2019 09:29:46 +0200
> Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> wrote:
> 
> > Quoting Patrick Bartek (2019-05-27 03:49:06)
> > > Needing to convert this box from wired ethernet to wireless, I 
> > > searched for a suitable network manager and wicd looked good: No 
> > > desktop environment dependencies (I use a window manager Openbox
> > > and single lxpanel), compatibility with Openbox, etc.  
> > 
> > [ unneeded systemd details snipped ]
> > 
> > > After more investigating, I came across wifi-radar whose simulated 
> > > install doesn't muck my system.  Any suggestions for something
> > > better? I could just go with iwconfig or iw?  No big deal.  I've
> > > done it before.  But being lazy, if I can find an app to do the
> > > work, so much the better.  
> > 
> > Here are the options I know of which provides a UI with wifi strength 
> > and being more lightweight than network-manager, listed in order of 
> > personal preference for install on Buster (some, iwd in particular,
> > is notably less mature on Stretch):
> > 
> > iwd is extremely lightweight console-only tool yet provides
> > interactive probing of wifi strength.  It integrates fine with
> > network-manager and systemd if a) explicitly telling those systems to
> > use it and b) explicitly turned off wpasupplicant.
> > 
> > connman is in my experience more reliable than wicd but looks ugly.
> > 
> > wicd felt unreliable in my experience - but possibly I didn't give it 
> > enough attention (see above about disabling wpasupplicant).
> > 
> > iw + wifi-radar if all else fails. :-)
> > 
> > 
> >  - Jonas
> > 
> > 
> > P.S. At first I skipped this excellent question due to it being 
> > presented as a rant about systemd.  I dearly recommend to _avoid_
> > mixing rants with questions, as you then are more likely to miss
> > valuable input.
> > 
> On a headless system I want connection on preferred system, when not
> available to another system.
> I want this without GUI
> 
> I tried wicd and hate networkmanager.
> 
> Any hints on cli is welcome!

If you mean wifi device auto-connecting to one or another hotspot 
depending on availability, then I think iwd can handle that by first 
interactively connecting to each hotspot and then flagging those 
connections to permit auto-connecting.

If you mean shuffling between different devices (e.g. use wired when 
plugged in otherwise wireless, or use one or another wired connection 
across several ethernet devices) then I think simplest is to set them 
all to auto-connect concurrently (with systemd with a flag, otherwise 
use netplug) and setup their routing priority - the "metric".


 - Jonas

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Insidious systemd Patrick Bartek <patrick.bartek@gmail.com> - 2019-05-27 04:10 +0200
  Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-05-27 09:50 +0200
    Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd) Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2019-05-27 18:30 +0200
    Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd) arne <sp113438@telfort.nl> - 2019-05-28 05:00 +0200
      Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-05-28 10:40 +0200
  Re: Insidious systemd Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2019-05-28 23:50 +0200
    Re: Insidious systemd Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2019-05-29 03:00 +0200
    Re: Insidious systemd Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2019-05-29 18:10 +0200
      Re: Insidious systemd Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2019-05-29 21:20 +0200
        Re: Insidious systemd Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2019-06-01 15:00 +0200
          Re: Insidious systemd Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2019-06-02 06:10 +0200
            Re: Insidious systemd David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-06-02 07:30 +0200
              Re: Insidious systemd Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2019-06-03 08:00 +0200
      Re: Insidious systemd Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2019-05-29 21:30 +0200

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