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Greg Wooledge:

> The man page for |clear_console|(1) is a little unclear to me, and a 
> little bit disturbing. I cannot figure out what "changes the 
> foreground virtual terminal to another terminal" is supposed to mean, 
> but between that and the reference to |chvt|(1) under SEE ALSO, it 
> seems like someone might want to investigate that more closely.
>
I already did, years ago.  It is why I years ago wrote and published a 
replacement |clear_console 
<https://jdebp.eu/Softwares/nosh/guide/commands/clear_console.xml>| that 
just uses the control sequences to clear the scrollback buffer, gaining 
the benefit of working remotely, with GUI terminal emulators, and with 
PuTTY along the way.  It has been in the nosh toolset since version 1.19 
in 2015.  The original |clear_console| from the Bourne Again shell 
package is, in contrast, using the side-effects of switching between 
KVTs as a way of clearing the scrollback buffer.  It switches them back 
and forth very rapidly.

I explained this in this very mailing list three years ago 
<https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/08/msg00958.html>. I also 
explained it in the 1.19 announcement 
<https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/08/msg00951.html>, also on 
this very mailing list, pointing to a whole bunch of Debian bugs. I also 
explained it on Unix and Linux StackExchange 
<https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/451150/5132>.  It's even explained in 
the manual.  (-:

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logout kills X hohe72@arcor.de - 2019-01-30 18:40 +0100
  Re: logout kills X deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 19:30 +0100
    Re: logout kills X Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-30 19:40 +0100
    Re: logout kills X Holger Herrlich <hohe72@arcor.de> - 2019-01-31 15:10 +0100
  Re: logout kills X Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-01-30 19:50 +0100
    Re: logout kills X Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-30 20:20 +0100
      Re: logout kills X Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-01-30 21:00 +0100
        Re: logout kills X Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-30 21:30 +0100
          Re: logout kills X Holger Herrlich <hohe72@arcor.de> - 2019-01-31 15:30 +0100
        Re: logout kills X Holger Herrlich <hohe72@arcor.de> - 2019-01-31 15:30 +0100
          Re: logout kills X Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-01-31 19:00 +0100
            Re: logout kills X Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-31 19:40 +0100
              Re: logout kills X David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-01-31 20:00 +0100
                Re: logout kills X Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-31 21:00 +0100
                Re: logout kills X Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-01-31 21:10 +0100
                Re: logout kills X David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-02-01 05:30 +0100
                Re: logout kills X Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2019-02-02 22:50 +0100
                Re: logout kills X Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-01 12:00 +0100
                Re: logout kills X Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-02-01 23:40 +0100
                Re: logout kills X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-02-02 11:00 +0100
              [solved] Re: logout kills X Holger Herrlich <hohe72@arcor.de> - 2019-02-01 17:20 +0100
                [cause] Re: logout kills X Holger Herrlich <hohe72@arcor.de> - 2019-02-04 11:40 +0100
      Re: logout kills X David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-01-30 21:00 +0100
        Re: logout kills X Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-30 21:40 +0100
          Re: logout kills X Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-31 00:40 +0100
          Re: logout kills X Holger Herrlich <hohe72@arcor.de> - 2019-01-31 15:20 +0100
        Re: Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-01-30 23:10 +0100
          Re: Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-30 23:40 +0100
            Re: Let's play "Where is X?" Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-01-31 00:00 +0100
              Re: Let's play "Where is X?" Brian Potkin <brian@copernicus.org.uk> - 2019-01-31 00:10 +0100
                Re: Let's play "Where is X?" Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-01-31 03:00 +0100
          Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X) Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2019-02-02 23:30 +0100
            Re: Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-02-03 00:40 +0100
              Re: Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-02-03 10:10 +0100
                Re: Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X) Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2019-02-03 17:10 +0100
                Re: Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X) Rusi Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 04:50 +0100
            Re: Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X) Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-02-04 15:30 +0100
  Re: logout kills X Holger Herrlich <hohe72@arcor.de> - 2019-01-31 15:50 +0100

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