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Re: Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X)

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On Sun, Feb 3, 2019, 04:04 <tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 02, 2019 at 06:34:33PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> > Jonathan de Boyne Pollard composed on 2019-02-02 22:01 (UTC):
> >
> > > Felix Miata:
> >
> > >> Indeed. It's what I had in mind when I responded. I'll give one guess
> > >> where it came from..... Time's up. Yes, systemd [...]
>
> > > This is quite wrong.  Neither systemd nor Lennart Poettering imposed
> > > such a notion.  The RedHat people had the idea of moving the X server
> to
> > > |tty1| in 2008 [...]
>
> > The devil is in the details. This was around 10 years ago and I was
> writing from fuzzy memory. Is
> > it really wrong in an overall sense when you do not omit from the quote
> all that I wrote, in
> > particular this part?:
>
> No but it is kinda wrong in a more diffuse sense: depicting
> Lennart Poettering as the Devil Incarnate with half-facts just
> adds a lot of noise to a discussion which should be carried
> with a cool head and lots of good will towards each other.
>
> Personally I don't like systemd and have /my/ good reasons to
> avoid it, but hey, Lennart is writing free software after all,
> so I'm thankful for that.
>
> /And/ when you're critizicing things, do make an effort to get
> facts right. And try to be fair in your critique: there's often
> a human being at the other end. Otherwise we end up being
> Facebook or 4chan.
>
> Now getting off my soapbox. Next, please :-)
>
> Cheers
> -- tomás
>


Depicting Lennart Poettering as the Devil Incarnate would definitely unfair
to the Devil Incarnate.

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logout kills X hohe72@arcor.de - 2019-01-30 18:40 +0100
  Re: logout kills X deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-30 19:30 +0100
    Re: logout kills X Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-30 19:40 +0100
    Re: logout kills X Holger Herrlich <hohe72@arcor.de> - 2019-01-31 15:10 +0100
  Re: logout kills X Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-01-30 19:50 +0100
    Re: logout kills X Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-30 20:20 +0100
      Re: logout kills X Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-01-30 21:00 +0100
        Re: logout kills X Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-30 21:30 +0100
          Re: logout kills X Holger Herrlich <hohe72@arcor.de> - 2019-01-31 15:30 +0100
        Re: logout kills X Holger Herrlich <hohe72@arcor.de> - 2019-01-31 15:30 +0100
          Re: logout kills X Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-01-31 19:00 +0100
            Re: logout kills X Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-31 19:40 +0100
              Re: logout kills X David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-01-31 20:00 +0100
                Re: logout kills X Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-31 21:00 +0100
                Re: logout kills X Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-01-31 21:10 +0100
                Re: logout kills X David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-02-01 05:30 +0100
                Re: logout kills X Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2019-02-02 22:50 +0100
                Re: logout kills X Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-02-01 12:00 +0100
                Re: logout kills X Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-02-01 23:40 +0100
                Re: logout kills X <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-02-02 11:00 +0100
              [solved] Re: logout kills X Holger Herrlich <hohe72@arcor.de> - 2019-02-01 17:20 +0100
                [cause] Re: logout kills X Holger Herrlich <hohe72@arcor.de> - 2019-02-04 11:40 +0100
      Re: logout kills X David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-01-30 21:00 +0100
        Re: logout kills X Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-30 21:40 +0100
          Re: logout kills X Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-31 00:40 +0100
          Re: logout kills X Holger Herrlich <hohe72@arcor.de> - 2019-01-31 15:20 +0100
        Re: Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-01-30 23:10 +0100
          Re: Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-30 23:40 +0100
            Re: Let's play "Where is X?" Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-01-31 00:00 +0100
              Re: Let's play "Where is X?" Brian Potkin <brian@copernicus.org.uk> - 2019-01-31 00:10 +0100
                Re: Let's play "Where is X?" Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-01-31 03:00 +0100
          Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X) Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2019-02-02 23:30 +0100
            Re: Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-02-03 00:40 +0100
              Re: Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-02-03 10:10 +0100
                Re: Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X) Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2019-02-03 17:10 +0100
                Re: Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X) Rusi Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2019-02-04 04:50 +0100
            Re: Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X) Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-02-04 15:30 +0100
  Re: logout kills X Holger Herrlich <hohe72@arcor.de> - 2019-01-31 15:50 +0100

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