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Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

From David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem
Date 2019-01-04 18:10 +0100
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On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 08:15:11 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2019 at 09:22:49PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > In this case, I hate to sound like 
> > an ass, but perhaps a re-install is in the future, doing the reinstall 
> > to a new drive [...]
> 
> Come on, people.  Show some sense.  (And yes, this includes the OP.)
> 
> He simply has a full root file system.  He has shown the df output at
> least twice now.
> 
> (A full root file system clearly and plainly shown by df despite the OP
> claiming he is certain he's not out of space, no less.)

That's rather unfair. songbird asked after space/inodes and the OP
responded with "so far as I know". With space in so many places,
it would be easy for someone to overlook no space on /. (Which is
why I replied "yes, but we don't" and asked for df to be posted).

On posting the output, the OP asked "could this e [sic] a problem?".

I see no "claim". AFAICT the OP's query was not directly replied to
until today, though obviously it, or the other df listing, was
read by others, continuing the discussion on several fronts.

Stepping back and reading this thread, it seems that there are a lot
of "solutions" being thrown in before the OP has been encouraged to
find out what the true root (pun intended) of the problem is.
As Felix hinted/suggested, I thought rather harshly, the problem
might not be caused by what you can see, but by what you can't.
The OP needs to examine the filesystem usage and see if that squares
with the free space, not go round deleting things (or shopping).

Most people's systems evolve (unless they're fresh install types)
and the history of the system might need to be taken into account.

Cheers,
David.

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  Fwd: Upgrade Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2019-01-03 17:20 +0100
    Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> - 2019-01-03 17:40 +0100
      Re: Upgrade Problem Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2019-01-03 18:30 +0100
        Re: Upgrade Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2019-01-03 18:40 +0100
    Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 17:40 +0100
      Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2019-01-03 18:20 +0100
      Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 18:40 +0100
        Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-01-03 19:00 +0100
          Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2019-01-03 20:40 +0100
            Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-01-03 20:50 +0100
            Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-01-03 20:50 +0100
              Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2019-01-03 21:20 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 21:30 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2019-01-03 21:40 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 22:20 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Frank Weißer <linux@weisser-ol.de> - 2019-01-04 10:30 +0100
            Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2019-01-03 21:40 +0100
              Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2019-01-03 22:30 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2019-01-03 23:00 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2019-01-03 23:30 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-04 01:30 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2019-01-04 11:20 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2019-01-04 13:40 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2019-01-04 13:40 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-04 19:00 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2019-01-04 19:40 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-01-04 20:00 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2019-01-04 20:40 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2019-01-04 21:20 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-04 21:20 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-04 20:40 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-01-04 22:10 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 08:20 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-04 20:50 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-04 20:40 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-04 20:50 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2019-01-03 23:10 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-01-04 14:10 +0100
              Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-01-04 03:30 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-01-04 14:20 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-01-04 14:50 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-01-04 15:00 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-04 19:30 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2019-01-04 19:40 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-04 21:00 +0100
                Re: Upgrade Problem Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-01-04 21:30 +0100
                Re: Upgrade Problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-04 23:00 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-01-04 19:50 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 01:40 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-01-05 06:30 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-01-04 15:50 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-01-04 18:10 +0100
            Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2019-01-03 21:40 +0100
        Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2019-01-03 19:00 +0100
        Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2019-01-03 19:00 +0100
          Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 20:20 +0100
            Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2019-01-03 20:50 +0100
              Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 21:40 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2019-01-03 21:50 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 22:10 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2019-01-04 03:20 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-01-04 09:10 +0100
                Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-01-04 03:40 +0100
                Re: Upgrade Problem Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-01-04 04:50 +0100
                Re: Upgrade Problem Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2019-01-04 09:50 +0100
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                Re: Overhead of LVM (Re: Upgrade Problem) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-01-04 14:30 +0100
                Re: Overhead of LVM (Re: Upgrade Problem) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-01-05 05:10 +0100
                Re: Overhead of LVM (Re: Upgrade Problem) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-01-05 08:40 +0100
                Re: Upgrade Problem Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2019-01-04 21:10 +0100
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                Re: Upgrade Problem Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2019-01-04 11:20 +0100
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      Re: Upgrade Problem Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2019-01-04 03:20 +0100
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          Re: Upgrade Problem Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2019-01-04 10:00 +0100
            Re: Upgrade Problem Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-01-04 10:40 +0100
              Re: Upgrade Problem David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-01-04 17:30 +0100
                Re: Upgrade Problem Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-01-04 19:50 +0100
                Re: Upgrade Problem David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-01-04 21:30 +0100
                Re: allocating disk space (was: Upgrade Problem) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-01-05 01:40 +0100
                Re: allocating disk space (was: Upgrade Problem) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-01-10 01:10 +0100
                Re: allocating disk space Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-01-11 08:20 +0100
                Re: allocating disk space David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-01-13 14:20 +0100
            Re: Upgrade Problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-01-04 11:50 +0100
              Re: Upgrade Problem Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-01-04 13:00 +0100
              Re: Upgrade Problem Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-01-04 14:30 +0100
  Re: Upgrade Problem songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2019-01-03 20:00 +0100
    Re: Upgrade Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2019-01-03 20:40 +0100
      Re: Upgrade Problem David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-01-03 21:00 +0100
        Re: Upgrade Problem Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-01-03 21:10 +0100
      Re: Upgrade Problem Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-01-04 16:00 +0100

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